Show of hands: PowerFC or Wolf3D

[fane]

hhmmmm

[gtrken]

Very different setup now Ken.

I wont start on Autonics faults but they sure have their share.

Did i mention Wolf has WA fastest 2 SR20s? and RB26.

Did I mention that the highest street hp ( Leewah) GTR in Oz runs Autronics and the highest Hp at Summernats did too...

If the wolf has a very different setup now then why isn't it mentioned on the website or info made avaliable to tuners. Once again I ask why the info is kept so *inhouse* when by sharing it around, it will benefit the product and the yourself as the WA agent.

Cheers

Ken

[fane]

gtrken isnt the first time i have heard that the wolf rot idle is "fake"....

i have only HEARD i dont know so dont take this as fact.

so ken, what your saying is wolf only lowers and ups the revs to simulate rotational idle...it doesnt actually drop a cylinder??

people argue that it still cools the engine...but its hardly the point...

sounds good, but what about the people that actually need to cool their engine faster....

[Butters]

Did i mention Wolf has WA fastest 2 SR20s

I gotta Ask ..... mostly curious ...

Fastest two sr20's ?? which cars are those ?

Are you referring to a rail car ?

[kidd]

u blokes need beer

[kidd]

i reckon an ecu is as good as its tuner, so whoever tunes your car (thread starter) will let u know what ecu he knows best

[dan_the_man]

Kidd... can u stop whoring the thread please

[N I B]

When you are sick of Rotational idle its nice to have real Idle control with valve openings for cranking and post start idle up and anti stall on decel. fast idle cold etc and only the PFC an Wolf do this, autronic is a very basic voltage based system so most shops only set idle with a srew driver.

Guess what we do cut injectors on rotational idle.

If Kym hates his Wolf we can plug the Nissan ECU in and send him to get something else.

Most shops have in house only secrets.

[N I B]

We use the fuel cut page to set rotational idle autronic use their Aircon control page, Both work well.

[Kaido_RR]

question for both ken and steve;

with both pfc and wolf can u buy addons for example antilag and have it hook up with the ecu and have both run right?

(by addons i mean, something not made by wolf or apexi, just a standalone type controller for antilag etc?)

cheers mike

[N I B]

Wold not trust such a thing and never heard of any.Ken may have.

[R32-GTS]

Ive heard smitlers rotational idle on his rb25 with wolf pnp . Its definetely not lifting the revs up and down .

[raasclaat]

at this rate i would go for whatever is cheaper...Unless you have really big plans Kymbo

[N I B]

Kyms going Wolf so we can stop this right here and you can all ask him what the final result is and if he is happy,What can be fairer?

[ix9]

No huge plans really - about 350rwhp is all Wolf is decided as Steve said

Pro's i've seen for Wolf that benefit me:

* No need to buy bigger injectors due to wolf's injection method

* No need for new MAFs cos wolf can use MAP

* Rotational Idle (wank factor)

* Antilag capability

* Laptop Tuneable

* Renowned good results

* Use Wolf Boost Control - Sell EBC

PowerFC Benefits for me:

* Wider range of Tuners

* Renowned good results also

* Cheaper price

* Easier Plug'n'Pray operation

Both have great features really, and it was a hard decision. I don't care for "This ECU is being used in the fastest SR/CA/RB in australia" Because mine is strictly road use

As Gav said - He chose the wolf due to the good results previously seen with it, and no doubt I will see good results too

Now comes the hard part - What turbo choice for good response with about 350rwhp?

I know a few people have awesome results with a T04 Hyrbid something-or-rather....

Thanks for the good/bad points guys, thankfully not too much bitching eh?

[fane]

mini group buy kym....i know there is 3 of us... steve....wa group buy how many numbers for what price?

[magic1]

angry angry Rotational Idle, i think i have a boner

[N I B]

PER4MANZ Turbos range of ITS turbs is outstanding and make 350rwhp very easy with a wide spread of power and well supported by Grant, i will show you some dyno graphs.

[N I B]

mini group buy kym....i know there is 3 of us... steve....wa group buy how many numbers for what price?

Ask Ant to work you a deal.

[fane]

sounds like a plan steve-o