Show of hands: PowerFC or Wolf3D

[bless_you]

i could have my arm twisted to get a wolf too, if anyone speaks to ant about it

keep us informed

[VSPECII]

powerfc was good in my GTR till afm.s and fuel issues was starting to become a problem with high HP (530 at the treads) then tried Autronics kept blowing coils up literally (the gell makes a ***n huge mess) just over 450 HP and without spending a shitload more $$$ on CDI's and so on. Wasnt worth the greif and hassle plus support from autronic was near enough impossible..

anyway getting back to it im now using wolf seen what it can do.. its easy to set em up once learnt. and ive got next to stuff all dyno tuning experience. and yeah getting rid of those afm's is a bonus.. best value for $$$$

[fane]

maybe a thread is in order...

i will be in the market in a couple of weeks....i will make a thread closer to then and sort something out with ant.... we will get a show of hands then....

[gtrken]

We have an as new Wolf pandp for an R33 GTS-T. $1150.

Client took it out for reasons I won't go into.

We are quite capable of tuning it if required as there is a big difference between can't and not wanting to.

As far as the Autronics Fabs, we all know that the dwell boards were too large and I agree that Autronics backup was average due to lack of good WA agent.

That has changed.

Wait for the SM4 with user definable dwell .

Cheers

Ken

[N I B]

Danny and John wholagans cars were nightmares also and i would not call Racetorque a bad agent.Having to buy CDI ETC ads big time to costs and with the damage we have seen with Johns and Dannys engines with CDI and waste spark im scared to ever use it.

John spent 3 years and tens of thousands of dollers trying every thing Richard aubert could come up with to fix their GTR ( Autronic did buy the SMD and CDI back to be fair) so we rewired the factory wiring and put in a plug and play and all the factory coils and modules and the car was fixed over night and just got 1st and 2nd at meelup and powerhouse.

But as this is a plugin options thread why are we at this point anyway Ken?

[gtrken]

powerfc was good in my GTR till afm.s and fuel issues was starting to become a problem with high HP (530 at the treads) then tried Autronics kept blowing coils up literally (the gell makes a ***n huge mess) just over 450 HP  and without spending a shitload more $$$ on CDI's and so on. Wasnt worth the greif and hassle plus support from autronic was near enough impossible..

anyway getting back to it im now using wolf seen what it can do.. its easy to set em up once learnt. and ive got next to stuff all dyno tuning experience. and yeah getting rid of those afm's is a bonus.. best value for $$$$

Thats why.

So it's ok to bag the Autronic but when someone mentions the Wolf, and any problems, everybody gets all upset.Still haven't seen the Whologans ahead of the Autronic SR20 at Wanners and I won Wellington dam last year in a stock GTR...

As stated before in other threads , we have no problems with it and works well but you are correct, it's not plug and play so won't mention it anymore .

[NO_RSPECT]

WOW what a nightmare thread

Convo starts about plug and play ecus... APEXi and WOLF

Moves onto AUTRONIC... REYTEC thrown in there for good measure.. LINK as well

Then the non plug and play is mentioned..

You guys go off topic way too easily..

Kym, for my 2 cents.. the PowerFc in my old GTST was fine.. car stalled a bit and the power steering felt alot heavier. DONT know if it was related.. the stalling was.. and had to factor in the cost of a Z32 afm as the GTST one maxed out.. even with that and a front mount etc.. the car put down 260 or so at the treads... no where near reaching any knock or anything... not quite the power figure i would have expected if there was a WOLF in there going from the results i have seen on other vehicles..

ah well.. next time round.. WOLF will be given an opportunity to prove itself... to be fair

oh or maybe autronic or link or reytec or motec

maybe i will just buy 5 more skylines and mod them all the same and just keep adding different ecu's and we can all line em up on a dyno day

[NO_RSPECT]

did anyone see where i planted that money tree?

[IMACUL8]

Thats why.

So it's ok to bag the Autronic but when someone mentions the Wolf, and any problems, everybody gets all upset.Still haven't seen the Whologans ahead of the Autronic SR20 at Wanners and I won Wellington dam last year in a stock GTR...

As stated before in other threads , we have no problems with it  and works well but you are correct, it's not plug and play so won't mention it anymore .

ken - yep seems that way... its laughable.

[ric777]

sorry guys, I only wanted to know what rotational idle was :Oops:

[fane]

they arnt having a go at you ric777, its a common arguement that keeps getting argued about....ppl are just getting tired of it....

kym is after ppl that have one of the 2 ecu's in their car now...or did...and their experience with it.... thanks to those who have answered so far....

[RB20LagWagon]

Link actually do do a plug in ecu for gtst skylines, autronic do some plug ins but only for wrx and evos at the moment i think. The old version of microtech did a plug in as well.

See insted of limiting the discussion to what only a few want to discuss its better if you open everyones eyes to what is available. Even if it is wire in the end costs are not that much different.

[ric777]

they arnt having a go at you ric777, its a common arguement that keeps getting argued about....ppl are just getting tired of it....

 

kym is after ppl that have one of the 2 ecu's in their car now...or did...and their experience with it.... thanks to those who have answered so far....

yeah I know they're not, it's just that after I asked about rotational idle, it seems that the toing and froing started.

I guess some things work for some people and not for others.

Perhaps we could have a thread where the ignorants on skylines, like me, can ask about things that they don't know about. There is so much to know. Ask me about V8's and I can tell you much, but "lines", well I'm pretty green on them.

[dan_the_man]

yeah I know they're not, it's just that after I asked about rotational idle, it seems that the toing and froing started.

I guess some things work for some people and not for others.

Perhaps we could have a thread where the ignorants on skylines, like me, can ask about things that they don't know about. There is so much to know. Ask me about V8's and I can tell you much, but "lines", well I'm pretty green on them.

Last time I checked there was a whole section dedicated to this already? :confused:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/fo...isplay.php?f=79

[N I B]

I looked at a Link yesterday and have to say it seems like a very good thing with nice software.The 3 Microtech plugins we have seen sofar have had problems and 2 have been removed but as they are new they should have them sorted soon.

[Dsturbd]

Autronic sounds the goods ,

will call next week Ken about 1

[oscar32]

Hi guys, I'm new so be nice. I'm in the middle of getting some power out of my car.

I've just completed a dyno run before a wolf is put into my R32 GTS-T . Once I have it installed and tuned I'll post the results up so you can see the difference it makes. My car already has a full exhaust, front mount and all the other backup hardware with the standard turbo hanging on (for now).

[VSPECII]

[As far as the Autronics Fabs, we all know that the dwell boards were too large and I agree that Autronics backup was average due to lack of good WA agent.

Cheers

Ken

Ken as far as the dwell boards are concerned that was left with the head dudes at autronic I cant remember his name. which confirmed or came up with that number for the boards. And far as I was aware they were the people to ask as they make the bloody things.. hopefully the new ecu's may come up to scratch without the use of more expensive CDI"S and so on. till then we'll wait and see .

[R31 POWER]

I've got a PFC in the R31 running the RB20DET with GTR injectors and Z32.

AFM.Cold starts give me the shit because it idles at 1500rpm even when the water temp is 76 :bs!: and then very slowly goes to normal idle.Sometimes hot starts(3 or 4 times)it wont start even after 6 or 7 cranks.I guess the cranking value when it's over 80degres needs to be down scaled?

At night I've noticed it hunts.Theres more but cbf

It is a good ecu thou and as said before tells you shit loads on the hand controller :headspin:

P.S does anyone know what menu does the cold start up?is it that temp correction menu?

[JXL]

hey guys coincidence that this thread pops up and i've got a friend whose decided already on getting a POWERFC for his WRX so i'm not going to get him to change his mind to anything. But he is concerned about

1 getting a good price and

2 getting it tuned right for a WRX.

I see Strich9ine has said he can get the PFC "The PowerFC can be had with hand controller for around $980 - $1000" which is like $400-$500 less then what my friend was quoted and that wasn't installed and tuned.

We we are onto a good start, can anyone tell me who is selling it for this?

Now he did mentioned something about getting a hand controller for it, Strich9ine mentioned it in the price but is there ONLY 1 type of hand controller for the unit or others?

I'm waiting for my friend to get back to me on what is the exact part model numbers but if someone could save the time for him and tell me that would be much appreciated.

So after we buy it who do you guys recommend for price to install and tuning it for a REX? my friend lives in ALexander Heights.

thanks guys.