Gone from WRX to GTR?

[bmxwrx]

There is no way you can get the rex to go like the R , if you manage to get it to go anywhere as quick you will be braking it every time you give it  a bit .

yeah i love my rex, but this is what i'm afraid of. would be awesome to not have to worry about driveline probs.

What sorta power levels can they get to without having g-box troubles?

and whats a basic rebuild worth if the donk is getting tired?

[GRUNTN]

dont worry about the box in a gtr , ill put it that way, they are a very-very tuf box indeed.they can stand alot of power .

[Guest two.06l]

Heres my dilema, I currently have an MY00 WRX which I have had from new (some mods) and am thinking of getting an R32 GTR.......................

Problem is I am so confused as to what to do, keep the WRX or sell and buy a GTR, is there anyone out there that has done the swap??? If so what are your thoughts.

Cheers  

Why dont ya get the Painters and Dockers to buy ya one Keithy. Im sure they'll look after you, or have we had a falling out with them. lol

[wrxhoon]

yeah i love my rex, but this is what i'm afraid of. would be awesome to not have to worry about driveline probs.

What sorta power levels can they get to without having g-box troubles?

and whats a basic rebuild worth if the donk is getting tired?

Look it this way , in the rex you will bust second gear changing hard 1st - 2nd .

In the gtr if you manage to bust the box, ( you have to have very agro clutch , button or twin plate and heaps of grunt 500-600 + ) it will be 3rd gear , 1st and 2nd are very strong .

Another important thing to consider , you can buy a gtr box anytime you want second hand for about $1 k and a new one for around $3 k .

A second hand box for a rex is $2400 from a wrecker exchange and i wouldn't buy one , it maybe busted . Just the parts to fix 2nd gear alone are $1 k , you have to change main shaft ( it will be stripped ) 1st + 2nd gear , second gear hub and reverve idler cause subaru changed something to make you buy more parts .

I just did a wrx box for a friend last week it cost him $1200 in parts including 3rd gear syncro ( it was stuffed ).

To rebuild a donk in the R will cost anywhere from $6 - 10 k depending on what you do .

Parts are not that expensive , pistons +rings $1 k from nissan or from $1 k for forgies . bearings are cheap like 250 for both big end + mains , less for aftermarket , $500 for oil pump , $120 water pump , $90 timming belt $300 for a full gasket set then you have maching and cil head . Labour is much dearer than a rex rebuild though .

Gruntn , yea i'm in sydney + don't come to Newcastle that often , only on the way to Nelson bay .

two.o6l , how is the R going ? done 11's yet ? If you haven't you should be doing it every run , maybe low 11's i would think .

[RedRocket]

I owned an my00 from new and sold it to get a ........... *boom tish* R32 GTR!

Obviously a GTR is a better performance car, no arguments there.

However it has been a very loooong and painful year for me getting it on the road and keeping it there. had I had my time again I don't think I would have bothered with all the trouble. Mine was a highly modified example when I bought it and each car will be a different experience. If you feel the need for speed and have plently of money / patience then why not. If you value other things in life and don't want to be owned by your car, perhaps reconsider. hope that helps...

[Keithy George]

Sheez maybe I shouldnt have asked, now even more confused!! :headspin: Thanks for the replies though

I think I can live with the harshness/non daily driver type ride of a GTR, my rex has upgraded bushes, bigger sways etc and the ride is pretty firm, its also not that user friendly having a VF30 turbo, FMIC and different comp.........

Having done these mods I dont really get to use the power i have to full potential, the only way to get the most out of it is 7000rpm launches which I wont do cause I know the box will sh*t itself pretty quickly

I am 95% convinced that a GTR is what I want but the only factor is as mentioned going from a 4yo car I have had from new and looked after to a 15yo car that I have no idea about...................I guess you takes your chances in these circumstances

And as for going to the painters and dockers "out there I was the painters and dockers in here I'm just another bare bum in the shower" so to speak

[Guest two.06l]

And as for going to the painters and dockers "out there I was the painters and dockers in here I'm just another bare bum in the shower" so to speak

nice one Keithy that was "gold"

[Keithy George]

he he I think I have watched it :chop: FAR too many times

[RedRocket]

nothing wrong with a VF30, chuck the FMIC away and launch it at 5grand feeding the power in. Stock MY00 gearbox and clutch can take that for years. just as quick as DIAL'N DUMP

[Keithy George]

I owned an my00 from new and sold it to get a ........... *boom tish*  R32 GTR!

Obviously a GTR is a better performance car, no arguments there.

However it has been a very loooong and painful year for me getting it on the road and keeping it there. had I had my time again I don't think I would have bothered with all the trouble. Mine was a highly modified example when I bought it and each car will be a different experience. If you feel the need for speed and have plently of money / patience then why not. If you value other things in life and don't want to be owned by your car, perhaps reconsider. hope that helps...

I assume you imported yours? What sort of problems did you have, were they mainly from it being modded/age or both?

Hey if you would like to revert back to an MY00, now that you have sorted the probs out with the GTR we could come to a deal.....he he as if you would!

[MerlinTheHapyPig]

i'd personally go for the GTR, (I hate WRX's coz they are notorious for understeer) and i think that's what most people are saying.

Though i might add, if you ask the same question on a WRX forum, everyone will tel u to keep the rexy - so you might be gettign a biast opinion.

[siksII]

I am 95% convinced that a GTR is what I want but the only factor is as mentioned going from a 4yo car I have had from new and looked after to a 15yo car that I have no idea about...................I guess you takes your chances in these circumstances

well u know the pros and cons, wrx is a nice car, but a very different experience from a gtr, from the sounds of it, i think you should get a gtr, 95% convinced would be convinced enough for me!

just be prepared for problems, but also for more fun

[RedRocket]

I assume you imported yours? What sort of problems did you have, were they mainly from it being modded/age or both?

No I bought it locally already modded. Got it for a reasonable price but have spent >$10000 to make it a nice car. engine rebuild, new gearbox, new suspension, new rims, interior parts etc.

My advise would be buy a stockish one in good condition with just a few mods. Or a full house one where no expense was spared. It really comes down to the treatment it has received I think. Thrashed cars will show you no love...

Hey if you would like to revert back to an MY00, now that you have sorted the probs out with the GTR we could come to a deal.....he he as if you would!

Ha ha. not likely at this stage! Besides, you guys don't pay enough for them over there

[bmxwrx]

so is the general idea that, if you buy a 32 gtr, regardless of it's apparent condition, its common that you'll need to spend some big $$$ to have it running nice?

is the engine and gearbox the usual things needed to fix?

or are some of the things like interior and suspension common to replace too?

[b00st_M0nK3Y]

"The R has always been the legendary symbol for invicibility"

Something close to that off Initial D - The n00b h4s sp0k3n

-JJ

[Keithy George]

Whats the difference in price between importing yourself and buying one here in Aus that has already been imported, generally?

Ie the profit mark up.

Thanks

[siksII]

you would probably pay around 5 grand more(looking at how much they are for sale for here from a private sellers)atm) for a local one, prices for r32gtrs have doubled since everyone is importing the 89 models, in japan they used to be ~400000 now they are 800000 (10 grand, just the car btw.)

but i would never consider importing one as with a gtr there is plenty of things that you would want to check out in person, if u import there is a chance that u will get a troublesome pile.... so i wouldnt do that if i were you..

[BoOsTeD_RB26]

There are a few things you need to keep in mind when considering buying a GTR IMHO.

For starters there is the age factor. ****, mine is a 1993 model and I have had absolutely no end of trouble with it. From niggly little things, to catastrophe's such as engine rebuilds (x2). People talk it up about 89 GTRs having minimal problems, but I cant seem to accept this considering my 93 model has caused me so much grief.

Additionally, when comparing it to the WRX, just remember that the GTR when delivered to Aus new was around 120K brand new, whereas the WRX is 40 odd thousand. Due to this huge difference in price, in my opinion, prices for parts for the GTR are ridiculous. Just for example, I was driving down south into the country one weekend when I managed to crack the windscreen. I needed a replacement asap. Anyway, I rang Nissan and the guy told me to sit down.......the answer.....a new windscreen with in-built arial was $2, 700! And a normal windscreen without in glass arial was $1, 700. However, I managed to find one for $400....thank god.

Basically, owning a GTR in my opinion is much like a hobby....They are a high maintinence car and require lots of attention and a fair whack of money (depending on what you are wanting to do with them).

Even if the car is in good condition, chances are you will need to fork out to keep the thing running because stuff breaks....full stop.

[someonestolecc]

I think you'll find difference people have difference experiences with their cars also... but all things being equal I see things like this-

the wrx is a great beginner car (not saying wrx drivers are all beginners but it is a car I'd buy for my mum).

the gtr is a car that is not as fool-proof - it will bite back if pushed too hard and I think needs to be treated like a RWD (compared to the wrx).

Mind you i've never driven a gtr and I haven't driven a rex in anger so I could just be talking crap - it's just always seemed like that to me

Good luck.

[siksII]

the gtr is a car that is not as fool-proof - it will bite back if pushed too hard and I think needs to be treated like a RWD (compared to the wrx).

Good luck.

You are very right and im sure most wrx and gtr owners would agree.

if you like adjustability in the way the car handles(ie. more like normal sports car rwd fun) a gtr is much better, a wrx is much less interesting in comparison, not to mention slower.

gtrs just feel more twitchy and active on the road it feels like a rwd, whereas a wrx just feels planted and very safe/stable (good if you are into that sort of thing..not me though;) )