Young drivers face fast car ban

[someonestolecc]

Nope badge engineering is the go;

RX badge on WRX (go FMIC and fit RX bonnet)

V6 badge on V8 (Single exhaust)

GTS badge on GTST (they wouldn't know anyway)

GLi badge on EVO (there are enough fake Evo's body kits out there to hide amongst)

CXi badge on Type R (rocker cover change)

Or interstate rego, that really stuffs them up.  A PO box in Queensland is cheap.

Heh. I didn't realise you could register a car to a PO box.. doesn't it have to match your licence?

Hmm wonder what I could do to my cefiro.... camry badge and paint it in taxi colours with the taxicab light up top ...

[T0nyGTSt]

Or interstate rego, that really stuffs them up.  A PO box in Queensland is cheap.

I don't think that's possible. You need a physical address to register a car.

Good idea though but if you kept getting the same cop after a 3 month period you probably got some explaining to do.

T.

[seraphyn_r33]

i dont agree with the banning p-platers from high powered cars. Like jae_s15 said a lot of ppl have been saving/working on/caring for their car for a few years keeping them to a standard far above the regulations, especially a lot of people my age. These people will be the ones getting ****ed over if law moves in to ban high performance vehicles from p-platers. I reckon a better solution would be to implement the mandatory driving course(s) when you get your license, but maybe for the p-platers with high performance cars implement extra driving courses or maybe an extra test or something, i dunno. Maybe even create a special high performance provisional license?? This would effectively filter the true car enthusiasts our age from the ****wits that buy the car just to drive irresponsibly, coz the enthusiasts, the ppl my age who drive their high powered cars responsibly would go the extra mile to attain the ability to drive their high powered car, where as the stupid morons would most likely just say "**** it i aint gonna go through extra tests and courses just to drive that car"

[blind_elk]

Typical knee-jerk reaction of imbecilic bureaucrats, who wouldn't know one end a gearstick from the other.

Did no-one remind them that these morons, who have thankfully removed themselves from the gene pool, were breaking already existant laws? What makes these pen pushers think that adding a new law is going to make any difference?

Why don't they try the carrot approach; sure as hell the big stick approach isn't working too well.

[Roy]

... were breaking already existant laws? What makes these pen pushers think that adding a new law is going to make any difference?

LOL...i like that, for all my dribble i would never have been able to sum it up liek that....but its spot on:cheers:

[Billy_W]

I think it's bullshit ... like, just because a few stupid punks get totalled doesn't mean thousands of other drivers should be affected.

Like, i rekon that they should be looking at ways to better educate kids about driving through school and shit (like in the US).

phuckin they talk about P platers being shit drivers but in the pat week i've had 5 full licence drivers almost total the shit out of my by not indicating or cutting me off and shit like that ... what about those phuckwits out there.

If they're going to enforce restrictions on P platers and younger drivers they better begin some sort of thing for the older drivers (e.g re-testing, etc).

That's just my thoughts but phuck it pisses me off.

[Duncan]

Here's 2c from a different angle....

I drove a corolla then a 200b until I was 25....I drove like an idiot....I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have made it if I had a skyline....I didn't have enough self control

Hell, sometimes I still don't

[Ash]

Read the article carefully!

"P-plate motorists under 26 will be banned from driving high-powered and heavy vehicles..."

it doesn't say there that if you are under 26 you can not drive a high powered car,

nor does it say if you are older than 26 and on your P's you can not drive a high powered car.

it says p-plate motorists under 26, i.e. you are only banned if you are on your P plates AND under 26...

but still a stupid law.

Ash.

[Roy]

Here's 2c from a different angle....

I drove a corolla then a 200b until I was 25....I drove like an idiot....I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have made it if I had a skyline....I didn't have enough self control

Hell, sometimes I still don't

What do you think would have stopped you driving in the manner you did? (Do?)

At the end of the day i cant see how they can pass any real legisaltion to stop these sorts of things from happening. I know ppl that continue to drive, drink drive etc etc even though they dont have licences....all the money wasted on what wont be a real solution..

Me im just feeling overly negaitive sh1tty today as it 9.30pm and im still at work....and off to drive with all th elunatics in Indonesdia tomorrow, all 120 million of them:( Dont talk to me about bad drivers unitl you have driven over there:(

[blind_elk]

Unfortunately, you can't legislate against stupidity.

And Albert Einstein said it best:

Only 2 things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not so sure about the former.

[Duncan]

Nah you're right mate, I don't know how to stop people like me driving like idiots - until the whole maturity thing catches up with you. Or alternatively dying in a car crash.

One thing I know for sure is that after a day at the track I don't feel like hooning on the way home. Maybe we all need to drive race cars for a living.

Have fun in indo

[someonestolecc]

Read the article carefully!

The telegraph article said

UNDER 26-year-olds could be banned from driving hundreds of models of powerful cars under a proposal expected to be considered by the NSW Government.

Under the proposal, limits would be introduced on the size and power of vehicles able to be driven by motorists under the age of 26 – a group over-represented in road crashes.

The NSW proposal is similar to a law introduced several years ago in Victoria, but there it applies only to probationary licence-holders.

What I said was - that contradicts what the RTA website says and I hope the tele got it wrong (stupid tele they should find some real journos).

SE Asia + driving = no thanks not unless im in a cab

[Ash]

hmm, i was reding the article on the front page of the paper, perhaps they are contradicting themselves in 2 different articles in the same paper?

Ash.

[Roy]

These days im pretty sane, when i was getting to the stage where i probably thought i was the sh1t behind the wheel, a friend put his car upside down with me in it...i think i learnt from his mistake:(

Another time a friend almsot put us off the back side of a bridge onto some railway lines...lol it was funny 1 week later, but explaining it to the police that happened to drive by wasnt fun...i just sat there and played dum, kinda came naturally. But between these two incidents i pulled back a notch or two.

It seems soemthing you have to grow out of, or get scared out of.

I htink being a passenger in a cab in any asian countey shoudl be an extreme sport:cheers: ... either that or done after a min of a 6 pack

[ecl]

... well by the looks of things the restrictions will be going ahead

even if not for 26 yr olds, but for p platers

my suggestion?

move out or register your licence/car at another address.

that way, you can try to apply for exemption in that it is the only car you own.

other than that, ask your employer to write you something sayin you need it for work.

hope that works.. i think its better if you have a clean driving record too =)

[someonestolecc]

hmm, i was reding the article on the front page of the paper, perhaps they are contradicting themselves in 2 different articles in the same paper?

Ash.

I just hope they're wrong .... i'm scared.. hold me...

[someonestolecc]

wait i have another way.. it's an idea i got after reading the body building thread.. ill just tank up.. get my replica gun and break into the floor of parliment till they listen to me..

but first i'm gonna scare that guard at the bank..

[drunkenmaster]

wait i have another way.. it's an idea i got after reading the body building thread.. ill just tank up.. get my replica gun and break into the floor of parliment till they listen to me..

Yep, thats the way to prove to the country young people are mature enough to make the right decision based on little practical experience.

All emotion aside, driver training involved to get an Australian license is a joke, but on the other hand, how can anyone be expected to be able to control a 200kW monster straight off the bat without any years experience on the road alone by themselves?

21yo power limit is very reasonable, you don't see people complaining too much about not being able to drink a drop of alcohol and drive until you 21yo, it's much the same. Too much responsibity all in one go is a recipe for disaster. I think 26yo is a bit far fetched, not because it more directly affects me, but because I think you will notice peoples driving styles improve a lot more from the ages of 18yo to 21yo, then they do from say 21yo to 26yo. Accident statistics reinforce this. Its all about experience and those who think they are god gift to motoring when they first get their license are the most dangerous as they have an unwarranted overestimation of their own skills with no proof or experience to back it up.

Almost everyone has admitted to doing stupid things on the road, its all the more dangerous when you dont have the real world experience and your trying to impress you mates with your brand spankin new license and your new car all in one go as you do where your 18 or 19. If your that stupid and you kill yourself anyway in your camry well, hopefully you dont take as many people with you as you would going 250kmh in a supra.

Anyways, its just my opinion and i dont really care if anyone disagrees as everyones view is valid on an internet forum and they all dont amount to any change anyway.

[LANFOH]

Do you know if this new rule applies to people on there ps that are under 26 or for everybody under the age of 26. I am 24 and I have had my blacks for 6 years surely this would not apply to me?

:headspin: :headspin: :headspin:

[Sydneykid]

how can anyone be expected to be able to control a 200kW monster straight off the bat without any years experience on the road alone by themselves

That's the silly part, you can drive a 200 kw monster, as long as it weighs 1.6 tonnes or more. So what's more scary? An 18 year old with a 162 kw Skyline that weighs 1400 kgs or an 18 year old with a 170 kw Landcruiser that weighs 2.5 tonnes?

There are huge holes in the logic of these proposals, we just have to keep pointing them out.