Pirelli or Falken

[Sheriff Wan]

Hi everyone,

Just a quick question.

I'm looking at getting a set of Pirelli P Zero Rosso's for my GTS-t (165 rwkw). I want them for hard street driving (no burnouts) as thats what the car is set up for.

Just wondering if anyone has used them and could tell me how long they last and how they perform?

Also if anyone know if Falken Azensis would be a better choice?

Any help on this would be great.

[Duncan]

I've had a bad experience with the falken st115s, we have been running them on the 350z, they have poor grip and only lasted about 12000klm

Falken fk451 are excellent

[t01-100]

I assume you mean Pirelli P Zero Corse's? They are OK for street but don't grib that much for the expense and are terrible in the wet. No Falkens have ever impressed me in the wet or dry.

If you want excellent performance and at a resonable price, look at Bridgestone RE55s or Dunlop D01J or D02Z. They won't give much more than 10,000-15,000s, but are the best and much of a muchness between the two brands although my preference is the RE55.

[darcey]

i use P6000s on my 180sx...great tyre with shit loads of grip (wet and dry)

[Sheriff Wan]

Thanks guys and as for Pirelli i meant Rosso's not corsa's.

I have just talked to a mate who has Rosso's said they stuck like S**T to a blanket wet & dry.

Haven't talked to anyone with Falkens yet though.

Thanks again

[R33Steve]

My falkens are shyte in the wet, have absolutelly no grip. have to try a take 3 times on slightly rough road, and no its not because of my driving. Im going to look into the bridgestone RE55s of Goodyear eagle F1's with the continuous tread.

Steve

[t01-100]

Sorry, never tried Rosso's. Corsa's are the DOT approved R (semi competition) tyres.

The difference between R tyres and even performance road tyres are chalk and cheese.

[rs73]

I just got a set of Dunlop 3000SP with 80-90% rubber on it. They grip quite good in the wet (160rwkw-192rwkw depending on boost)

[Pandaemonaeon]

The Falken's I'm running seem to be a very good tyre, lots of grip in the wet and dry. I think the RRP on the Falkens is about $750 each for my car though, so they aren't worth spending that much on. Will probably go to Goodyear F1's as the are about the only manufacturer to make a 285/17 and they are supposed to be the best on the market at the moment.

[Zebbie]

hmm.. I previously had a set of falkens on mine (187rwkw) and they were almost frigging suidicidal....!!

I changed to pretty much the top level of street Yoko's, and I love them, but they're not cheap (245&255x17) - But they are brilliant in the wet, and give oodles of grip :-D

Edit : they're also pretty dammed good on wet/muddy unsealed roads too!

[Pandaemonaeon]

I've had the exact opposite. Had Yoko DNA GP's on when I first got the car and with 238RWKW (supposedly) at 140km/h in the wet the car would just spin up, whereas with the Falkens I can plant it in 1st gear in the wet no worries.

[RBN1]

  t01-100 said:

 

If you want excellent performance and at a resonable price, look at Bridgestone RE55s or Dunlop D01J or D02Z. They won't give much more than 10,000-15,000s, but are the best and much of a muchness between the two brands although my preference is the RE55.

RE55's for strictly road use? Good luck!

[LiQuid IcE]

i got good year F1's on the front of my 33 at the moment ($250 per tyre)... ive done about 12,000 k's and they seem to be wearing down pretty quick

i dont think they'll last more than another 10 000 k's.

is 20 000 k's normal for a set of tyres?

a friend has F1's on his prelude and its lasted him over 60 000 k's

I dont drive hard at all.

[daler32]

i used to have falkens on my subi brumby and they didnt grip in a 80odd kw front wheel drive good luck gettin em to grip in anythin else lol

[Duncan]

falken is a range of tyres, not a single model. Some of them suck, some of them are excellent for the price.

[rs73]

True... even like my Dunlops, the SP series are sticky tyres and would be better than other types of Dunlop intended for "cooking model", 80kw 4-cyl, shopping trolleys out there.

[Maxx]

Pirelli P Zero Rosso are great tyre, but they takes a bit more time then other to warm up.

but the price of them are scary!

if u really want top of the range street tyre

try miechlin Pilot sport, IMO it's better

[Ronin 09]

I agree - pilot sports are excellent road tyres - had them on the GTSt

what's wrong with running RE55s on the road? I have been and am loving it

[JimX]

All you guys whinging about Falkens, WHICH FARKIN' FALKENS?! Every manufacturer has cheapshit tyres, it's just that Falken's cheapshit ones seem to be cheaper shit than most others (but not all). I can back up what Duncan says about the FK451's, they are excellent in wet or dry. I have silica tyres on my bike which grips really well in the wet and dry, which was my main motivation in also getting silica tyres for my car. The 451's seem to go well with price/performance. There is no way I would buy one of Falken's lower end tyres though, they are definitely cheap and nasty.

Duncan, I've got a feeling that the ST115's wear out quickly because they have those bubbles of Aero bar nothing in them. Their gimmick is to "suck up" road noise with these vacuum bubbles. But surely that just means there is less rubber to wear out.

[Duncan]

yeah they did start with a very shallow tread which would not have helped either. But the main disappointment was for something pitched as performance tyres they were terrible

The only problem I've had with FK451 is getting hold of them, always have to order them in. but they do exist