Asking For SAU's Advice

[torquenstein]

Ok Rezz, i'll keep that in mind.

I know you guys hear this all the time, but i am a very sensible driver. I have never gone over 35Km/Hr even in an 80 Zone. Because im scared shitless of mum beating the **** outta me if i have a little accident.

Maybe i will just go for a Silvia.

[leech_]

torque i think as i said earlier a silvia is a good idea they are cheap as chips so you can probably get one pretty soon especially if your mum will help you out. That way you can start saving for either mods for the silvia or for the line gl dude

[SKY031]

Ok good plan on paper, im not sure if it will work out, as u need to look at another factors.

1. Insurance

2. Running cost of an rb26

3. Normal running cost fuel, services etc etc

Add to that:

Registration,

routine maintenance & fluids (oil, coolant, brake fluid etc),

things that break and need replacing,

tyres,

brakes,

excess on insurance,

speeding fines,

the list goes on.

I know you guys hear this all the time, but i am a very sensible driver. I have never gone over 35Km/Hr even in an 80 Zone.

35 in an 80 zone is far from sensible, it's downright dangerous.

[blind_elk]

Yes, if you only drive at 35kph, why on earth do you need 320hp - you won't even get out of 1st gear, FFS!

[i wear moccos]

even if you can afford to buy the car, can you afford to maintain it? that seems to be the statement echoed by everyone on these forums. i know dudes on apprenticeships and traineeships with hot cars(fto's skylines etc) and after paying their loan and filling up the tank, they dont have much money for anything else. and dont say your parents will take care of it, thats just being a spoilt little sh't. if YOU cant afford the initial cost and maintenance, dont even bother, it will be too much of a burden.

tyres, fuel, service, oils, stuff that breaks etc etc, it all adds up sooooo quick.

as people have said before, if you want an import, get an s13 NA, it may not blow people away, but youll like having a bit of extra cash to party, wine and dine chicks, waste on looking fresh.

everything ive said has been repeated several times in all the threads but its the truth

oh and i am 20 and dont drive a skyline, i drive a 97 futura with xr8 rims and suspension. i LOVE this car right now. parts are easy to find, doesnt cost much to run but is still heaps of fun. before i got this car iwas looking at r32's and so glad i didnt get one at this stage in my life as i want to spend cash on more than my car.

[someonestolecc]

NA silvia is gonna be the best bet you can get I think torque.

Just don't do it up - forget trying to spend money on it to go faster because its still an NA and will get beaten by a turbz silvia anyday.

Once you have gotten over the learning curve we all go through of the roads and road conditions then you can take it to the track and start to have some fun with it.

The advantages of a NA silvia are simple - safety factor (not as much zoom zoom), insurance (someone will give you some), petrol (cheap to run), rewarding car to drive (it will teach you).

Disadvantages - NA (you won't be able to race skylines)

If you look at it practically it makes sense to learn on that car. Being NA silvia you won't also have to worry about parking it as much as say a rb26 uninsured skyline

Finally. I'm 22, owned 4 cars, driven probably close to a hundred, easily over 500k km clocked - and yet I STILL wouldn't trust myself with a rb26. I just WOULD NOT get a car faster than I already have (200rwkw-ish sr20). And that's cos I appreciate the geee's and quite frankly it's a scary thing.

Good luck.

[cameron]

Just the RB26 into the GTS4 will cost you sh!t loads.

Here's whats involved:

RB26 around 8k with harness ecu etc. maby more ?

The wiring harness is completely different, the ECU is completely different, the ATTESA system (inc ECU) is very different, the diff ratios are different, the gearbox ratios are different, the radiator is different, the power steering is different, the fuelpump and pipework is different, the HICAS is different, the intercooler/pipework is different, the brakes are completely different etc.

You can add up the cost of thoes and realise that it would be cheaper to buy a GTR.

And then you want to buy a R33 ? and swap engines around are you crazy ? Instead of buying all these cars and swaping engines, just keep saving for an R33 GTR. or a decent GTST.

You can buy a silvia their cheaper.

Jun

[R32Abuser]

Mate Im in the same position as you but are doing it at the moment.....

I currently am

1. 17

2. I own a R32 GTS-T (170 RWKW)

3. Have my P's (obviously not in a state with the same laws)

This car, no matter how nice it is both performance and driveability, these cars i wudnt recommend to someone on a wage similar to mine and urs..... i currently earn like 7g a year min.... and even i cannot afford this car i have.... almost all the time my parents need to bail me out with their money to get me going again.

You will get plenty of failures, i.e. in 6 months i have had a fuel pump go, clutch master cylinder go, headlights go, alternator go etc. etc. all little things but alll ad up and need money right then and there you WILL NEVER HAVE IT. no matter how much u think u can do this YOU WONT BE ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT YOUR PARENTS ASSISTANCE.

Even me though, i drive this car VERY EASY! i.e. 2grand shifts most of the time... warming it down for long periods, i never really thrash the car because i like to treat it good, using the power only if i need it. I can't say the same for you, but unless you are extremely sensible, YOU WILL CRASH THIS CAR!!! no matter how good you think you are, it will happen. like i sed unless you are sensible.

My advice, having been there and doing it, is to get a nice quality VS commodore or a similar commodore for the same amount of money. They are far more reliable cars, far more practical, and overall have a little bit of power to play with.

In the end its your choice.... only you can make and dont let anyone tell you otherwise..... all of us are ONLY giving you our ADVICE.

Good luck

[HKS34R]

Buy the S13, and save the rest of the money for a deposit on a house. Then in 5 or so years, sell the house and with the money you make on it, buy a real GTR!!

Getting into large amounts of debt over a car is just simply not worth it. especially at a young age. I've done it twice :Oops:

My 2 cents.

[Rezz]

Disadvantages - NA (you won't be able to race skylines)

Thats not a disadvantage mate! Skylines are in another league... Racing Skylines shouldn't come into the equasion for this young lad anyway right?

[sskylinee]

u could probably offord to buy an r32 gtr with the money ur gonna spend on the gts4

once u r sick of it sell it and get an r33 gtr

think about it! works out to be the same with the $$ u r looking at to spend

[Gus-]

hmmm, very similar to my plans

i want to get a GTS-4, more or less because i cant afford a GT-r for a first car (insurance, matinance) and i want to buy a house and then another etc. a gts-4 will look awsome and wont cost me as much or be as scary to drive. id suggest no engine transplant, just a gts-4 and keep it till its done a few million kays and get a real GT-R.

[funkymonkey]

Best car for a learner to learn about RWD cars in... an AE86

In the first 24 hours of owning a GTS4, don't drive a GTSt, because then you'll realise that:

1) GTS4's don't have the same ATESSA system of a GTR, and hence handle worse

2) GTS4's are slower than a GTSt as there's a torque split in the power delivered to the rears

3) GTS4's have more things to break than a GTSt and MOST importantly...

4) a GTS4 is NOWHERE near as fun to drive as a tail happy GTSt

Don't believe the hype, the GTS4 was sold as a sporty car with enough grunt to move a full car load of people. It wasn't meant to be a poor man's GTR, and hence why it didn't sell as well.

Buying a GTS4 just because its AWD is the most retarded decision you can make when it comes to buying an R32. If you want a fun R32 to drive, get a GTSt, if you want one that's no hassles and makes an awesome daily driver, get a GTS. If you are constantly moving a family of 5 around then get a GTS4.

[R33Steve]

mate in agreeance with everyone else, get an NA silvia. you will have much more fun learning to drive it and wont be out of pocket with maintenance insurance etc. I now own a R33 but this is my 4th car. I have slowly worked my way up untill i knew i could afford everything that was involved with owning one. Plus in owning slower cars, learnt how to drive! good luck with whatever you do mate.

Steve

[V8eta]

Torquenstein, 1 more problem with your plan is the fact that the rb25det from an r33 gts25t wont bolt straight into the gts4 when you want to do your swap. You would need an adaptor kit to fit the rwd rb25 block to the 4wd running gear.

[Rezz]

mate in agreeance with everyone else, get an NA silvia. you will have much more fun learning to drive it and wont be out of pocket with maintenance insurance etc. I now own a R33 but this is my 4th car. I have slowly worked my way up untill i knew i could afford everything that was involved with owning one. Plus in owning slower cars, learnt how to drive! good luck with whatever you do mate.

Steve

This is the way definately