LISTEN TO NEIL MITCHELL, AM, 1270 something, TALK BACK ON SKYLINES!

[SS8_Gohan]

talk back on skylines...

Neil is like "where do these come from" "are they imported" "they seem like death traps/machines"

[Driver]

They seem?

More like i dont know so i better say bad things about them.

[Downforce]

Geez I cant stand IGNORANT old fu(kers who dont know what the fu(k they're talking about... this guy is a moron, scouring the news for the latest "hot topic" to talk about... it's not as if he has any real concerns for the number of accidents involving ALL car types over the holiday period... not only skylines. It's all about ratings and what topic will generate the most controversy.. pffft.

The shameful thing here is that so many of the general public are influenced by what they see, hear and read in the mainstream media - their beliefs are shaped by what they see in the media. The impact is police will target import cars, particularly skylines, just to be seen to be "doing something" about the so called problem - but the problem is NOT the cars, it lies within the maturity of the drivers. So we need driver education, not talk about Skylines being a death trap. Skylines are not a badly designed car, and they handle well in the hands of a responsible driver. Accidents will always happen, and can happen in any car.

I think it is poor form on behalf of the media to single out skylines as a car type being the danger here. Governments can crack down on the cars and impose restrictions etc. but they are not attacking the root of the problem, only taking the easy target by defecting cars, etc. which is a flawed approach that will never work.

/end rant.

[doxximus]

i'd say who gives a shit about what neil mitchell says, but majority of older melbourne give a shit, which is a problem

[doxximus]

ahahahahahaha this old man is on saying he just trading in his 20yo skyline

quote from him! he's a gun!

"Its not the power of the car, its the stupid people who can't drive them!"

[SS8_Gohan]

damn it, got CUT OFF!!! that was me, DANIEL!

[krzysiu]

Damnit, i missed it Do they have a transcript of the show?

[ipg]

guys

1. he gets paid to dribble shit, whether you believe it or not is up to you, but you are right, most of it is said to incite the village idiots.

2. people are stupid if you told them it was cool to jump of a cliff they would start jumping of it.

3. education is important to address the issue, but it is not the be all and end all solution.

4. cops should target skylines. why? most of them are deemed unroadworthy because people start to ILLEGALLY mod them and as such are a soft target for them.

5. natural selection. need i say more.

[2rismo]

4. cops should target skylines. why? most of them are deemed unroadworthy because people start to ILLEGALLY mod them and as such are a soft target for them.

You are as ignorant of reality as is humanly possible.

[SKY031]

4. cops should target skylines. why? most of them are deemed unroadworthy because people start to ILLEGALLY mod them and as such are a soft target for them.

You are as ignorant of reality as is humanly possible.

um

Well I happen to agree with the comment.

When people do midifications to cars which affect the structural integrity and other safety features, I would consider that a problem.

Every week there are new threads where people complain about being defected for safety reasons.

I don't see a problem with defective vehicles being taken off the road.

[someonestolecc]

Defect for BOV isn't unsafe in my eyes. Neither is having a ridiculously loud car (if I can live with harleys I can live with loud exhausts).

Having sick habibs in the car racing 100km/hr through the main drag of Chatswood (or insert any shopping mall mini-city place here) going accel, brake, accel brake is.

Same as crusty bogans cutting springs down for that sick autosalon look.

I think you guys are talking about two (in my mind) different sets of defects.

[wylie]

yeah nearly all defects are BS - you dont often see cops pulling up old shitboxes that are falling apart to get them off the road

i dont see why people should be defected because of a bov or intercooler or pod - pain in the ass regulations, i cant wait till everything is so tied down and regualted that we get to all wear the same cloths and if you have funky socks the fasion cops will defect those because they are not made from fire retardant thread.

[krzysiu]

i remember i scared an old lady once while going past her and my BOV going off lol

isnt that sort of unsafe?

[R31Nismoid]

um

Well I happen to agree with the comment.

When people do midifications to cars which affect the structural integrity and other safety features, I would consider that a problem.

Every week there are new threads where people complain about being defected for safety reasons.

I don't see a problem with defective vehicles being taken off the road.

i wouldnt agree.

from what i saw in WA while i was there, you can get a permit for any mod just about.

nothing like the crap we see here in Vic which is totally absurd.

How can a modification be legal in one state and illegal in another?

All cars are complied to ADR (OZ wide) design specifications when they come into the country but depending on what border you cross the rules change.

utter gov't rubbish

[blacky]

Nismoid i cant really agree with you on the leniency of WA's car modification regulations - true you can get permits for certain things like strut bars, one intake mod and so on, but its just like any other state in most other respects - atmo BOV - Yellow Sticker. too low - Yellow Sticker. Police officer doesnt like the look of your car - Yellow Sticker. They are as tyrannical here as anywhere else.

But i do agree that the rules have become rubbish - they started with the prefectly good intention of maintaining acceptable levels of safety in roadgoing vehicles, but have evolved into little more than a tool that can be used to take cars off the road that popular opinion dictates as 'unsafe' (read anything thats even remotely powerful or non-stock.)

[foznice]

damn it, got CUT OFF!!! that was me, DANIEL!

do you mean you got cut off cos neil or whatever didn't like the fact that you don't agree with him? or cut off because of bad reception or something?

People allways get hung up on 3AW. It's BS if you ask me, even if their argument is riduculous or irrational people still have a right to speak their opinion...

[SS8_Gohan]

i was going at it with im, pretty much talking over him, and i could tell he was making more concessions than he really wanted to, and then i heard a click and i could tell i was off the air and he'd gone to the next guy. What happens is that you get the radio coming through on the phone, like 10-15 seconds ahead of the normal radio (for swearing etc) and you'll get a guy asking what you want to talk about... i just said that Skyline and their drivers were being mis-represented by the ppl who had already called in...

anyways spoke my mind, felt like i got some of my points across, needed more time tho... a little nervous too... never done anything like that before... for those that missed it, basically i said.

- stupid to jump the conclusion that Skyline's are 'death traps'

- said that Skyline's comparitively were safer cars than a Commodore of Falcon, said that if you compare the mentioned cars on the year they were made, Skylines had ABS, traction control, air bags, way before the local cars, not to mention better brakes and suspension.

- said that i'd feel a lot safer in a Skyline than a crappy little excel or lancer.

- also said that what was this magical thing that happens the day you get your full license that means you can drive a hi-po car? It's about education and that any nutter behind any car can speed, and have a bad crash.

it was bout the time i made my 'next day, full license' comment that he went back to his 'radio audience'

i hope i didn't sound like a complete fool. Anyone hear me on the radio?

cheers

[The_Paladin]

holdens are death traps

[DRiFT!]

holdens are death traps

Damn straight. I have two mates, one with a 400Hp 308 VL, the other with a stock GTS25t with an exhaust system. Guess who got the defect for ‘your fully sick ride is to loud mate’. Yep you guess it; most cops don’t give a **** how loud your car is, it’s the car all together they pick on you for. Jealous bastards.

[_IrIsH_]

oh also guys.

dont get to upset by what he says.

he provokes the issue in order to get listeners.

all about ratings