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Um Stock no ... clearly you guys haven't met me.

The Gen 3 was stock but with the auto didn't seem to have the push in the seat grunt I was expecting. Wereas the Soarer was with probably the same claimed power as the gen 3 pushed him well into the seat when it came on boost ( see not stock ).

Agreed the stock Soarer is a major let down.

Interesting comments about the HSV and low end grunt. I hope they go ahead with the 7 litre block.

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