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I drove a manual one, and it had a whole heap of power (225rwkw) up top, but was so laggy and torqueless it had nothing with 4 people in the car. Whereas my r34 gtt at the time had a whole lot of guts regardless of how many people were in the car and what rpm it was at, it just seemed to do the job.

There's >70hp and 100 Nm between the 2jz and vvti 1uz too, is the v8 really not much quicker?

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I drove a manual one, and it had a whole heap of power (225rwkw) up top, but was so laggy and torqueless it had nothing with 4 people in the car. Whereas my r34 gtt at the time had a whole lot of guts regardless of how many people were in the car and what rpm it was at, it just seemed to do the job.

There's >70hp and 100 Nm between the 2jz and vvti 1uz too, is the v8 really not much quicker?

V8 feels good and sounds meaty with a full system :)

And does well with a turbo and nos :)

I drove a manual one, and it had a whole heap of power (225rwkw) up top, but was so laggy and torqueless it had nothing with 4 people in the car. Whereas my r34 gtt at the time had a whole lot of guts regardless of how many people were in the car and what rpm it was at, it just seemed to do the job.

There's >70hp and 100 Nm between the 2jz and vvti 1uz too, is the v8 really not much quicker?

which model soarer are you talking about (missed where the discussion started and too lazy to go looking)? the soarer with the ugly digital dash is slow in stock v8 form. talking mid 15 second 1/4 mile (based off times on the soarer forum) as they are pretty heavy (around 1600kg for the lightest one, 1750kg for the full luxo model) as they are luxo barges and being auto doesn't help. throw a supercharger on it and it's a different story though.

The vvti 1uz came out in 1997 and had 290hp with 407Nm, the 2jz fitted has 225hp and 285Nm, based on wiki lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_SC#1991.E2.80.932000

I knew they were heavy but 1750 kg, that's pretty huge. Though for $4-5k, if they're reliable and not too slow it's not a bad buy for the money. Don't suppose someone sell's easy aftermarket supercharger kits?

HOLY WALL OF TEXT BATMAN

Christ lad, use a full stop and some line breaks. I confess I didn't read past the first couple of sentences there.

:laugh:

Cliffs;- cool story bro

Should have mentioned i'd be looking at pre-1997 anyways. Will see what a test drive shows in 6 months when i actually have some cash, probably going to find it too heavy though (that's the resounding memory I have of the twin turbo 1jz soarer I drove, slow, heavy and a world of lag).

Wait for the test drives before you judge them :)

Single most underrated Jap car out there. The manuals drive completely different to the autos, so don't base your experience of one on the other. Having owned both factory manual and auto, this is one of the few cars I would prefer in auto...at least for the daily drive and traffic light heroism. Fastest 0-100 times I could manage stock standard were 6.0 for the auto and 6.3 for the manual. The auto is so well matched to the engine, you never find yourself without power. Where the manual shines is in the corners and on cruises. They are a laggy engine - it is, afterall, two decent sized turbos on a 2.5 litre and boost doesn't come on strong until around 3500, hence the manual suffers...but you keep things above that and the car will boogie. Fortunately the auto does that job for you, and even off boost the autos seem to pull well. Neither are that quick off the line...but once they get started, they just pull and pull. Have out torqued V8s when it comes to triple digit speeds!

As for weights...my Soarers both tared in at 1550, which isn't bad for a large car. Handling was very good (they were both TEMS equipped). Where the V8 models are slow is that they weigh about 1700kg and are usually the Lexus models with a ton of heavy luxuries...plus power is slightly down and the ratios are probably pretty tall for economy. Plenty of people have supercharged these, but if you want cheap performance, it's the 1JZ all the way. Single turbo conversions can be done for about 4-5k and net big gains, or just exhaust + boost increase for a modest daily performer. Reliability, it's a Toyota and the engine/gearbox/diff are bloody strong. Honestly, I haven't met many unhappy Soarer owners. You'd have to be pretty unlucky to be one!

Enjoyed reading the stuff idiots say about skylines.

My most common dumb question is when i get out & the turbo timer is still going

"why is your car still running?"

I did have a blond moment once & lock my car with the key still in the ignition, then my car was still running til the locksmith arrived.

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Wait for the test drives before you judge them :)

Single most underrated Jap car out there. The manuals drive completely different to the autos, so don't base your experience of one on the other. Having owned both factory manual and auto, this is one of the few cars I would prefer in auto...at least for the daily drive and traffic light heroism. Fastest 0-100 times I could manage stock standard were 6.0 for the auto and 6.3 for the manual. The auto is so well matched to the engine, you never find yourself without power. Where the manual shines is in the corners and on cruises. They are a laggy engine - it is, afterall, two decent sized turbos on a 2.5 litre and boost doesn't come on strong until around 3500, hence the manual suffers...but you keep things above that and the car will boogie. Fortunately the auto does that job for you, and even off boost the autos seem to pull well. Neither are that quick off the line...but once they get started, they just pull and pull. Have out torqued V8s when it comes to triple digit speeds!

As for weights...my Soarers both tared in at 1550, which isn't bad for a large car. Handling was very good (they were both TEMS equipped). Where the V8 models are slow is that they weigh about 1700kg and are usually the Lexus models with a ton of heavy luxuries...plus power is slightly down and the ratios are probably pretty tall for economy. Plenty of people have supercharged these, but if you want cheap performance, it's the 1JZ all the way. Single turbo conversions can be done for about 4-5k and net big gains, or just exhaust + boost increase for a modest daily performer. Reliability, it's a Toyota and the engine/gearbox/diff are bloody strong. Honestly, I haven't met many unhappy Soarer owners. You'd have to be pretty unlucky to be one!

don't hype it up for me. one more week left.

Yes please do!! Keen on single or twin turbo?

On this, i'll be getting a 92 twin turbo GT-TL.

So it has some luxury goodies, torsen, sunroof and the like, sure its heavy, but since people are saying it handles well, i'll be looking forward to it. I'll be flying to sydney on saturday to grab said car.

Enjoyed reading the stuff idiots say about skylines.

My most common dumb question is when i get out & the turbo timer is still going

"why is your car still running?"

I did have a blond moment once & lock my car with the key still in the ignition, then my car was still running til the locksmith arrived.

yeah i get that a fair bit

never locked my keys in the the car though

(touch wood)

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