Cefiro quirks

[someonestolecc]

Gday,

Just wondering if anyone had solved these cefiro quirks. Or if anyone wanted to add any to see if we can solve them?

1. Rear windows

Why the hell are these permanently child locked? It looks pimped when the windows only go down half way but is this due to the side intrusion bars or is this how cefiros were made?

Is there anyway to make them go all the way down (some of my rear seat passengers whinge too much).

2. Auto door-lock

My car decides to lock all doors (except for the driver door) when the car starts or starts moving around 15-20kmh (it randomly chooses).

Is there a way to get rid of this and still keep the central locking button operative? (i'd still like to hit the switch to lock/unlock all doors but i'd like to stop the auto-lock).

Thanks.

Anyone else got any?

[inark]

they arent really quicks so much as they are features. Most 4 door cars only wound the windows down that far. I remember my dads commonwhore of that era doing the same thing... our mitsi. The door lock thing is a safety feature which is the same as the soarer has... as soon as u get up past 20ks it locks the doors... all tho it should lock them all. Mercedes bought this in as an anti hijack feature incase people got car jacked cause people always forgot to lock their doors when they got in the car.

[Slain]

my doors all auto lock bar the drivers one.

also the bloody beeping out of the speedo over 105kmh, some ceffys are quiet but mine is decent loud so i want it gone!

[someonestolecc]

One man's feature is another man's quirks.

I find them annoying. I have visions of me being stuck after rolling my car (heaven forbid) in a deathtrap fireball and being locked in... Atleast I'd be safe in the knowledge that people couldn't hi-jack (or rescue) me while I was locked in.

And what's the deal .. how is locking all but the driver door stop hi-jacking? I don't see how a hi-jacker would go to try to jack me through the rear door

Still.. Anyone know how to get rid of it?

Slain I think it's been mentioned in a previous thread somewhere in this section how to rip the box out.

[adrnln]

A post was done about the 105km ping and how to stop it unsure where it was again.

and from memory a wire needs to be cut (again unsure where) and the auto locking will stop

no good for trying to do circle work with the door open foot on the ground and my mate jumping in the passange side while it keeps locking now is it

[someonestolecc]

hah adrnln.

CEF11E mentioned to me you can unplug the central locking thing and it will stop it. Obviously then you lose the functionality of the central locking button - which I'd like to retain.

One thing I have thought of is cutting that wire, then re-wiring the same wire from the actual drivers door lock (which is wired to central locK) and hook it up to the button. This way when you press the button it's the same as locking the drivers door (which will central locK/open).

I would prefer not to re-wire stuff so if I can just zap the module that detects the speed or disable that wire (so the central locking module always thinks it's at 0km or the car is off) that would be ideal.

The windows don't bother me as much as the door lock. Only because I have freaked out passengers and I get the shits with people trying to open doors while I'm pressing the button to unlock them.

[Resin]

The drivers doors doesnt lock automatically with the others because it doesnt have a motor in it .....found this out when i got the immobiliser and hooked up to the central locking. All my doors lock now ! little annoying.

The chiming noise can easily be removed ...its one of two black boxes under tha dash ..... just unplug it....oneis for the ligfhts and the other is for the doors.

[inark]

see none of these happen in my car... no speedo noise... no auto locking...

only thing mine does the same is the windows which as u said isnt really an issue.

[someonestolecc]

The drivers doors doesnt lock automatically with the others because it doesnt have a motor in it .....found this out when i got the immobiliser and hooked up to the central locking.  All my doors lock now ! little annoying.  

The chiming noise can easily be removed ...its one of two black boxes under tha dash ..... just unplug it....oneis for the ligfhts and the other is for the doors.

So what did you have to do to make all doors lock with your alarm? Put in a motor?

see none of these happen in my car... no speedo noise... no auto locking...

only thing mine does the same is the windows which as u said isnt really an issue.

Just out of interest when you hit your central locking button in your door do all of the doors open and close?

IF SO - Any chance you can have a look at your door consoles to see if there are any obvious wires unplugged?

[Mr Eps]

the reason the rear windows don't go down all the way is because the cefiro has 4 doors, ie: a rear wheel well interrupting halfway down the rear door, if it was to go all the way down it would cut into your tires =P

i don't have the issue with the auto-lock and mine was a grandpa spec, to tell truth i don't really have any quirks!

except i do really hate the reverse BEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEP

noise, what the sh*t is the point of that? if it's on the outside of the car i can understand cos it lets kids know your reversing but inside the car? WHY!?!?!

[Goon]

the reason that the windows only go down half way is because the wheel arch which takes up some of the rear door space actually prevents the window from going down completely.

to make the window go down completely, you need to create a split window, one that cuts out the rear bit of the window (does that make sense?), so that the back bit of the window does not actually meet the wheel arch bit.

i hope you can understand that.

[Goon]

in that 20 mins that it took me to think about how to explain it, mr. eps put it perfectly and beat my post. cheers epsoo

[inark]

So what did you have to do to make all doors lock with your alarm? Put in a motor?

Just out of interest when you hit your central locking button in your door do all of the doors open and close?

IF SO - Any chance you can have a look at your door consoles to see if there are any obvious wires unplugged?

yeah central locking still works from the inside... but from the drivers side key it only operates my door.

[funkymonkey]

i put in a central locking alarm so we had to wire a motor to the driver door, all the others had factory ones, so now when I go over 15km/h ALL the doors including the driver doors lock.

My chime's still on as my dad actually likes that feature, but its a real PITA when you have to drive from melb to syd at 110km/h with that blasted thing on... luckily i packed some earplugs.

The windows are a standard feature... like all cars fromt hat time, including eunos cosmo's and laurels.

[someonestolecc]

That makes sense.

Looks like I might have to execute my plan to "fix" the auto lock thing and still retain full central locking feature.

Just out of interest how'd you put the driver side motor in? Is it hard? Where did you source it from? I need to put alarm in shortly

[funkymonkey]

danny from autotrust did it for me while I helped (mostly watched) took him about 5 mins to wire the extra motor and the locking mechanism in. Using a standard solenoid available over the counter. You'll have to get the exact details off him, but yeah all up it wasn't too hard because my car already had the central locking stuff wired up.

All we did was make the alarm trigger the central lock AS WELL as the speed safety mechanism. And then instead of locking all the passenger doors, made it lock all 4 doors by using the extra motor.

There is a way of disabling the speed lock, danny showed me how, but I can't remember exactly, it was as simple as terminating one of the wires going into the central lock trigger.

[Resin]

yea i had another motor put into the drivers door to make it lock .......its weird how they didnt come with it ........i thought mine had been taken out or something .......like a few other things ...but seeing most other people have the same thing ...looks like it was stock...

.....next time im at the auto electrics place might ask him to have a look an see it i can have the auto door lock feature removed ...cause it pees me off ..and most of my friends hehe ....

once they get to my car they cannot leave! heheh

[LowRollaBoy]

Autolock only seems to happen when only driving off.

Which is good, since my old car (MR2) ive locked keys in there when warming it up on a couple occasions!!

[someonestolecc]

Hmm if it's one wire I'll find it.

As for installing another motor I'd like to see how it was done.

Is autotrust in Vic or NSW funk?

[funkymonkey]

he's holidaying in the phillipines with his wife n kid right now... but he's from VIC

I'd show you my cef, its sittin in Dundas right now, but I dunno if my dad'll be too keen on strangers taking his door panel apart