SBC ID III vs AVC-R

[Col-GTSX]

I think il pas the group buy over to newkon....

He should be able to orginize a few dozen at a good rate.... PM him

Newkon... Maby you should begin a group buy for these guys in the group buy section...

[Col-GTSX]

After multiple pms about setting the boost on the SBC i will note the following....

If you are after 10psi do the following (internal wastegate only);

go to channel1....

Switch this channel to manual

set boost to 43

set gain to 10

this is 10psi on the head, may need to adjust the boost setting up or down +5 or -5 depending on how much hose you used.

10 psi for external wastegate users.

go to channel 1

set to manual

set boost to 32

set gain to 40

once again just play with the boost number to adjust the boost value...

Also note the boost number does not relate to a certain figure (i mean its not like 40psi) its just a scale of 1-100 (1 = stock boost / 100 = max boost)

Do not play with you gain setting in manual mode unless you want to kill your clutch. Automatic cars may run a combo of like;

Channel 1

manual mode

boost set to 34

gain set to 15

This will give you a kick but is not suggest for any standard gtst... As you will kick the motor too hard and it will kick you in the back pocket. LOL

[Suspense]

does any1 here happen to have the dimensions of the blits sbc id III??

[Col-GTSX]

Dimentions???

The control unit (hand controler) about the size of a half a packet of smokes.

The brain box about the size of a packet of smokes but thinner.

The sol under the hood about 2 packets of smoke on top of each other.

Please note all smoke packs refered to were B&H 25 hard packs.... (Medium 12 version) LOL

[IanH]

Set up a HKS EVC4 on a RNN14 (pulsar) and it was a very easy unit to use, setup and fit but it looks "old" now.

Same again with an AVC-R (on the same car after he sold the EVC4). Lots of trouble with spiking boost, ECU wiring etc. In the end he sold it on and went back to HKS but got the newer EVC5 which was fantastic (but expensive).

I have an SBC-ID3 on my GTT and ran it at 17.5psi (1.2bar) on a TD05-18g and it held boost really well (no spiking) until 6000rpm when it died off to 13psi (1bar). Most likely the turbo was the cause but I never got around to finding out why it'd happened before I broke my engine (lost oil cooler hose at 80mph - 130kph)

I'll definately have the ID3 again in any turbo car I'll have (or the EVC5).

[Col-GTSX]

Good info Ian. I have installed a few HKS units. I just didnt like the looks of them and they have limited features compaired to Apexi and Blitz.

I have not experienced any drop off with the Blitz unit when set in manual mode. Went to dyno and the boost grapg was perfect. It was on 9.8 then touched 10.1 and up and down 0.3 psi. The graph is almost perfect, a 0.3psi fluctuation is nothing and the guy at dyno was blown away as to how acurate it was on an internal wastegate turbo.

Cheer Col

NOTE: If anyone else has had experiences with different boost controllers please feel free to write it up.

[Cubes]

10psi is really nothing though.

I would be interested to see how they perform when pushed.

I.e trying to hold 18+psi on a 9psi or 11psi actuator.

[Col-GTSX]

Well i guess you'll have to wait to find out. As if i were to do that today id be back tommorrow with a new topic "I blew my motor beacue i was an idiot" LOL

I will let you know, im doing one atm on a WRX. He is running 20psi atm on a bleed valve, so i convinced him he needs to go electronic. We will fit it later and monitor its progress.

NOTE: Wrx's are quite easy to work on, this should only take us an hour to fit.

[DAN00H]

installed one ofthese on my GTR, when I get the chance i'll take it out and test it. As for 18 psi, I'll report on that once I have the 2530's on but I also have the HKS upgraded actuators!

[rd-runr]

does any1 here happen to have the dimensions of the blits sbc id III??

The contoller is 1/2 DIN size. So its 1/2 the size of a car stereo (single DIN) and is only about 1cm thick!

[Col-GTSX]

Ok finished the WRX.

Took it for a run at 20psi. Hit record on the device in graph mode. Spools up to 19.7psi by 3700rpm. Then holds with minor movement of 0.4 psi threw to red line.

The graph looks nice, very fast onset and holds. She starts at around 19.7 then slightlly climbs to 20.1psi towards 5500rpm then lets down a little to 19.9 at redline.

I would call that very good. I am very happy with this result and the guy is wrapped. As his old bleed valve spiked to 25 psi every now and then. Before anyone asks about mods on this WRX ill tell you its fairly standard and yes i told him 20psi is a little to much, he srugged it off.

[Cubes]

Looks like its the goods then.

Do the WRX's have the same boost drop issues as the RB20DET's and RB25DET's have due to the turbo running out of efficiency?

[Penfold]

installed one ofthese on my GTR, when I get the chance i'll take it out and test it. As for 18 psi, I'll report on that once I have the 2530's on but I also have the HKS upgraded actuators!

I'd be really interested to find out your settings for the ID3 as I'm doing the same setup.

Cheers,

Penfold

[DAN00H]

I'd be really interested to find out your settings for the ID3 as I'm doing the same setup.

Cheers,

Penfold

I'll play around with it tonight and let you know

have you installed yours yet? I just write some instructions for someone else on how to install it - I can pm you if you want!?!? pretty easy job, it would someone with no experience about 2hrs.

[Penfold]

That would be terrific especially if you could include your settings

Cheers,

Penfold

[Evil]

i've had no problems with my AVCR... i think with EBC's you just need to choose a good "brand" and you shouldn''t have any problems....

[DAN00H]

That would be terrific especially if you could include your settings  

Cheers,

Penfold

Pm of instructions and setting sent : )

[Roy]

So anymore feedback on these things after a few monthds of use.

Anymore feedback on how they go controlling an 8psi spring at say 20psi???

Aslo with the scramble boost funciton, can you set it for - boost as well as + boost? And is it for a predetermined elapsed time, or whislt you hold the button down...or both???

Trying to resurrect the AVCR next weekend, but thinking i need to buy a new EBC, may go another AVC-R, may try something new:)

[Col-GTSX]

I still stand by my Blitz ID-III as the best ive used so far.

I now have the optional power meter as well and with both put together its an awsome combo.

[sav man]

I have an HKS EVC III (was on the car from japan), and it spikes like a bitch, and surges (goes on and off boost), it's fine if i have it 'tuned off' in stock boost. Is it true that the EVC III is pretty buggy?