Advise on Mods

[Pulp]

Hi all fellow Liners!

I just need some advise on mods for my Skyline.

I've had a guy give me a quote on a few things. Guy from Ovaboost Performance in Malaga.

Basically want to do some minor type stuff, know absolutely sweet f all about these things and really want to learn as much as I can.

What I got quoted on was:

Intercooler,

3" Dump pipe (cause it's stock from the cat back)

Manual Boost controller &

SAFC.

This according to him would get me about 250rwhp. Think it involved turning up the boost of the turbo alittle. The approximate cost was $2500, which includes fitting and tuning.

At this stage I don't want to go overboard, but maybe down the track I will change the turbo as well.

Just want to know what you guys think, recommend etc? Also I've been told it's better to have and Auto boost controller.

Cheers,

Pulp.

[teejay]

thats not a bad price

safc and tuning is around 700 bucks if new

cooler and piping is around 1100

dump is a few hundred

controller is a around 100 odd, tuning fitting labour bits and pieces = 2500

go for it

before you do, get a quote for the same from other places

[Pulp]

I was think of doing that, just thought I'd get some info and opinions first.

Thanks mate, much appriciated!

P.S: Is that the chick in your avatar from the PAS? isn't she just gorgeous??

[uneekwahn]

I'm currently hitting 228hp with a front/dump turbo back exhaust and an air filter. boost is standard.

front mount/safc/tune should give me more than an extra 20HP, so you'd hopefully hit 270hp. although some people have said new injectors might be needed after 270hp.

good luck.

[C yar]

sounds like a reasonable price... go for it... 250 to 270hp is what i think you will achieve

[ix9]

Dump pipe - $175 (or dump/front in one $220ish) (DIY Install)

S-AFCII - $450 (DIY Install)

Intercooler - $1000 piped and fitted

Manual Boost Controller - $45

Tuning shouldn't be more than $150-200

Total $1870

[32vspecII]

where do i get an intercooler pipped and fitted for $1000 ?

i would forget the safc and put the money into a better electronic boost controller because you only have limited boost to work with on the stock turbo and you dont want to waste 2 psi as a spiking buffer .

Or just forget about boost control , youll probably hit about 10psi with a 3inch exhaust anyway and then put the money towards a powerfc which is a full replacement computer and much more programable than the safc.

[Pulp]

Thanks guys!

Damn I thought that my quote was sounding good!

I hope I'm not getting ripped!I'll do some shopping for sure.

arkon, you were saying about not using the SAFC, does the electronic controller adjust to our fuel type etc too? Cause the guy was telling me that the SAFC did this. I don't know if I really want to go too much into upgrading the computer (PowerFC), just gonna do a little at this stage.

Sorry still learning all these things!

[teejay]

P.S: Is that the chick in your avatar from the PAS? isn't she just gorgeous??

yeah the dinosaur is kinda cute

[32vspecII]

adjusting to our fuel type is not really required the stock ecu will do just fine on 98 octane fuel at the tune level you are looking at .

an electronic boost controller will do the same thing as the manual boost controller , ie control boost . however it does it with more accuracy and is controllable for hi and lo settings things like that .

the problem with the safc without going into to much technical stuff is it doesnt do that much so you wont find a huge gain with it now , maybe 15-20kw and later on it wont offer the level of tuning required to support more serious mods . so for the level your at the stock ecu will be fine

[Pulp]

I see, now things starting to make sense!

I was told by someone the same thing about the controlling of the boost, but wasn't sure if it would be necessary. I think I'll go back and get him to give me another quote with the electronic controller. I don't want to have to go back and make changes later cause I wont be happy.

Thanks again Arkon! Great help.

[rev210]

Hi pulp,

Do you want to go faster or just have a 250rwhp dyno to brag about?

If the answer is faster;

* S-afc II is a good move. Buy one second hand for around $400 + $100 to tune.You can turb around and get most of your money back if and when you need a PFC.

* Manual bleeder boost controller. Nothing wrong with them for a factory turbo. Don't waste money on an electronic one. Aim to make good power at around 10-12psi, this is enough on the factory turbo to get you a low 13.

* Consider the front mount upgrade carefully. Pick the correct size based on your final application. If you are going to be happy with the factory turbo then reconsider getting one, it won't stop you doing low 13 quarter mile passes. As a note consider how many people can't go that quick with a front mount on the stock turbo (there are reasons why).

* exhaust improvements are a great idea. go for it.

Other things to consider...

Pineapples $100 and gets you more traction.

Adjustable exhaust cam gear. Retarding the timing on the exhaust cam nets you some earlier boost and about 10hp right through the power band. $200 DIY.

Lightweight flywheel (assuming you don't have an auto) .Along with an upgraded clutch this is worth putting in to experience increased acceleration (I gained almost half a second drop over the 1/4).

The forced induction section has plenty of good info so you don't have to reinvent the wheel.

Learn a little and you won't become a 'bolt on boy'. Instead you go faster for less effort. It's fairly easy and cheap to get low 13's out of an R33 gtst, you just need a little 'good' information. There is plenty around.

[Pulp]

Hi Rev210,

Yes the faster factor is what I intend on achieving.

With the front mount option, I do intend on upgrading the turbo down the track so I think getting one installed would be the way to go.

I think it's a great idea what you said about the SAFC II and saving up for a PFC later. I think this guy quoted me $660 + $110 to tune.

Although, considering I want to put a bigger turbo in later, do you think I should get the electronic boost controller now?

I will head off to the forced induction section and have a read I think!

Thanks very much for the info mate!

[JXL]

you can import a brand new SAFCII from greenline or nengun i think it was for $450 landed in under 2 weeks.

My friend got his Power FC from Greenline for $1100 landed in less than 2 weeks so you won't need to search around for 2nd hand.

also look into getting more traction as the pineapples was mentioned. the more of that power hits these ugly bumpy streets we got here the better but you need to be able to control that power.