Advice on ADR compliance - gauges

[Ant97GTR]

Hey All,

I've just bought myself a gauge set and trying to figure out where to place them in my R33. Does anyone on the forums know the ins and outs of ADR's with respect to gauge fitment on your dash???

Any help or advice is much apprieciated

-Ant95gtr

[inark]

pretty sure as long as they are below the top of the steering wheel they can be mounted anywhere on the dash so as not to restrict your view out the front or side windows.

[Ant97GTR]

Thanks Nark........I actually thought this rule read that you can't mount any gauge above where the dash meets the windscreen from the driver's point of view. I know a couple of people who got a bright yellow sticker for mounting it off of the A pillar right where it meets the dash - this would be under the top of the steering wheel but would 'restrict' view out of the bottom rhs of the windscreen......talk about :bs: design rules!

[adznight]

I've got this sumwhere, it's on the Vic Roads Site. It has to be very close to the original gauges within say a 10cm radius of the cluster. I'll try to find it now.

[RTFGTR]

I thought that they can be placed anywhere but need to be below the "eyeline" ... this could be different depending on how tall you are???

[adznight]

Just found somethign interesting about fog lights, there is no rules regarding WHEN they can be used, interesting.

[inark]

the modifications guide on VICROADS has changed... but there isnt anything on it about internal gauges... only external ones unless im looking at the wrong thing

[Ant97GTR]

Adz - If you can track down that info it would be great. I have looked at the Vicroads website and the only gauges they provide info on are external ones (spot on Nark )

RTFGTR - I think that is the understanding of the rule that I tried to explain in my second post. From the drivers point of view (eyeline) nothing can obstruct the windscreen above the point that the dash *appears* to meet the windscreen.

[adznight]

Yeah it's strange, I can't find it anywhere. I know what it looked like, was a pic of a cluster and dash and had a circle round it showing where gauges can be mounted. You will have to call them I'd say.

I do remember it said you CAN NOT put them on the pillar, on the passengers side dash, ontop of the passenger dash. It said they were ok on the edge of the drivers side and also on the top of the steering wheel (which I think is silly, how do you see the gauges). The general rule is if you can hit it when you crash or if it's blocking your view = Bad.

Maybe even do a search on gauges?

[inark]

yeah thats pretty much it... i know the singl cluster a pillar ones that were mounted low and in the corner were actually legal... i know where i had mine to the left of the original cluster was legal and was on the top of the dash in a way.

if ur going to get a few of em cut them into the dash itself

[Ant97GTR]

Wow thanks for that Adz....thats exactly the kinda info I'm after. I knew about the pillar thing as a mate has been done for it but hadn't heard about the passenger side dash rules etc etc. Makes sense though as in the majority of crashes the driver and passenger will hit the dash at some point so anything added in this area will present a higher risk.

I have done a search in the forums using gauges and other keywords but it seems no-one has 'official' info on where to locate gauges. I have also searched various vicroads websites to try an get this info and it seems the only way to get it is to actually buy the ADRs. I find it very frustrating that cops and vicroads are more than happy to defect us for modifications not complying with ADRs, yet when you try to find the info BEFORE you do the mod to try and ensure that it is legal, its impossible to find......

.....I guess the vic govt doesn't want to miss out on all that revenue huh

[adznight]

Yeah spot on Ni, I saw a 33 GTR today with a VERY low mounted boost gauge on the pillar, was an older chap so i figured it would be done right.

No worries Ant

[Ant97GTR]

Yeah trouble is you can't fit 3 gauges where the a pillar meets the dash

the whole reason for this thread is 'cause I'm weighing up whether to fit them on the a-pillar /top of dash combo (and therefore for easy removal) or to cut them into the dash.

At this point, and with the lack of official info I'm leaning towards the dash option....the only thing I'm worried about is that I want to try and make it look as OEM as possible which means tracking down some higher quality single DIN fillers....any ideas on where I can find 'em??

[adznight]

I have a single din thingy but it's the type you can store stuff in. Is that the wrong type?

[Ant97GTR]

yeah I'm kinda after a 'fill' plate. Basically I have an equalizer in one of my din slots that isn't being used.....I was thinking of ripping that out, replacing it with a fill plate as close to the face of the dash as possible, then cutting the gauges into that (and a bit of the dash surround around the din slots). To make it look as OEM as possible I was hoping to get either a CF or black plastic fill plate for a std din slot (i assume it would screw into the same screw holes that the radios use)

[inark]

i love the look like the ones in my old ceffy were...

i'll be doing the same with my next car and cutting holes in the glovebox side of the dash and tilting them towards me....

[Ant97GTR]

Yeah Ni I didn't mind the look of those dash mounted gauges in the ol' girl......well except for the 'extra' air con vent

I considered that posi but with my eyes the way they are the closer to my driving position the better

[inark]

hehe or bigger gauges

are the aircon vents on the right of the driver round or square?

[Ant97GTR]

hahahaha yeah Ni any ideas on where to find 21" gauges that I can read from the drivers side????

Unfortunately the aircon vent is similar to the centre dash ones.....squareish with one side sloping down.....Anyway I'm going to have a chat with a shop this week to try and get this sorted as not knowing the temp my oils getting to on track days is playing on my mind.....

If I get any ADR info while doing this I'll post for others...

[adznight]

Hey have you looked at the little gauge mounts like in the 34's. They can hold 3 or so gauges and sit up on the dash like the 34's?