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Joe to tell you the truth I am not a fan of the GTS,

however the GTS 4 you own is an exception to the rule, I mean the silver trim on the door did it for me straight away! I think the GTS4 is a VERY good building block if you were to build a cheap but NICE high performance car... eg GRACER. That is a $100,000 GTR that has won a few awards (HI Octane 2 Vid) Beleive it or not that started out as a GTS4, so i think respect is to be given to a non turbo 4wd coz the pOtential that thing has is HUGE!

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U said it 25GTT so dont take too much offense Joe:)

Thing is that the rb25 just doesnt have the raw capacity to push around a car that big. I mean the r31 was ok but i would almost compare the gts to the silvia Q which, in all honesty, just blows(or rather doesnt(if u get my meaning;))) compared to the K.

a gtst with gtr kit is not rice

Ahh thats a fine 'line isnt it (excuse the pun) maybe someone should write up the definative rules of rice :lol:

Originally posted by Strich9ine

GTR stuff on a GTST ? Not rice.

I like the GTR Kit, especially the GTR wing.. looks f*ckin pimp!

but IMO maybe that and a GTR front bar is all..... rear pods, gtr mags, and badges are going WAY too far.... oh, did i mention badges ?

Yeah But What about when the GTR rear wing has "GTR" written on it on your gtst huh?

U can only blame toyota for that one. Same as the old cordia's with the TURBO on the side. Came stock like that so not rice. Must admit i saw one of those cordias with a big ass decepticon sticker on the front u know from tranformers. I did look kinda cool:uh-huh:

Guest GR33DyMANGO
Originally posted by macka

Yeah But What about when the GTR rear wing has "GTR" written on it on your gtst huh?

the writing on the gtr wing is on removable inserts. alot of the gtr wings ive seen have had this insert replaced with either blank inserts with no writing or nismo carbon fibre inserts with the writing 'nismo.'

but i do agree... if the insert still says gtr... and its on a gtst.. then its rice due the fact that your trying to say your car has better performance than it actually does.

Originally posted by PSIKO

if the guy can beat you in a race, then you can't accuse him of being a riceboy since  

a) he beat you

B) you were beaten by a riceboy (not something to brag about!) :P

Who's to say a ricer can't be fast? A NA 911 with a turbo badge is still a ricer.

Say a commodore with a GTR badge handed me my ass, I'd have no problems telling my friends I lost to a riceboy. Being a riceboy is far more shameful than losing a race.

Originally posted by PSIKO

but in any case it all boils down to fact that the person owns a car, it is his property and can therefore do whatever he wants to do with it

Of course, its every individuals right as a human being. So that makes their actions unquestionable? Can't we comment on thier stupidity without being told to shut up?

I have no problem with ricers... until they make a mockery of something I have a vested intrest in. The bad taste of 'line ricers has an impact on Skyline owners everywhere. Heres my proposal: If you're a 'line owner, abuse every 'line ricer you see. That should send the msg across loud and clear- ricing a 'line is not "cool"!

If I got beaten by a Ricer, then I'd be more inclined to believe that the things the guy has done to his car, actually exist

(whether it be advertising a product which is in his car, or putting GTR basdges on his car). If they don't then I'm not gonna go and say anything about the rice he had on his car

you're on one hand saying "Can't we comment on thier stupidity without being told to shut up?" but at the same time saying "Heres my proposal: If you're a 'line owner, abuse every 'line ricer you see. That should send the msg across loud and clear- ricing a 'line is not "cool"!"

there's a difference between passive actions (commenting amongst your mates on the car, and having personal thoughts about it) and actively abusing them

But by you saying stuff like "R33_CAM, you're an Assclown" then thats offensive. It's his car, leave him alone

where you find something crap, there are people out there who don't, and no they aren't all ricers

Some people out there might find your car crap, and I'd say you would be very angry if someone said that your car is a pile of rubbish after you've just spent 20 odd grand on it

btw if a commy has gtr badges on it, then he's not a rice-boy, he's lost the plot altogether

"its their car they can do what they want"

yeh good call :P

its fine if they 'modify' or do anything for that matter, but its when theres an impact on others then theres the problem

if someone rices up a skyline this brings down the skyline name. this not only generates false stereotypes which causes

1)deteriorating the skyline name

and 2)cops see flashing lights on a skyline this will make them notice skylines in general and therefore cause more trouble to us

bottom line is; modify your car all you want BUT as soon as it has an effect on others (like now) expect people to speak up

RIGHT THERE!!!!

Adam said it in a nutshell.

Doin dumbass stuff like that brings down the name the same as rocky 4,5,6 brought down the name of the original and best rocky's. If its good to start with y try and make it bigger and better when u just end up lookin dumb in the end.:lol:

Honestly u dont wanna be noticed and that is after all the major goal of the ricer. Remember a few years back when the 'lines were rare as hell and they were almost all completely stock or show cars? that was when they had an air of mystery around them and within a true car enthusiast group u would be respected, not for how it look but for what it is.

Ricers are the epitome of POP in the performance car world. U ppl dont listen to britney spears now do ya? just cause she has a bit of moulded plastic here and there :P (even though i do like watching her clips with my own music playing)

cops are more likely to pull over someone who has an obvious modified car than someone who has put some stickers on it, different badging or whatever on it!!

and you'll get ricers in any car around, from 2CV's with turbo badges on them to skylines with GTR badging

noone can stop it, it will always be there, so why botehr being a penis to them about their cars saying they're bringing down your car name, when there are plenty other people who are in different ways (be it drifting, dragging, abusing...whatever)

rice is not affecting or causing any sort of impact on anyone other than themselves

it's not the concern for cop attention, cops are only interested in people breaking the law in a dangerous way

they aren't going to pull you over and go "GTR hey buddy?"

"umm...no?"

"that's a yellow for you then, ricebitch"

you'll get it for illegal aftermarket mods which everyone has in this forum apart from gr33d, and for the way you drive

if you want to stop cop attention, don't speed etc

I just can't see how people can't see this??

Guest GR33DyMANGO
Originally posted by PSIKO

it's not the concern for cop attention, cops are only interested in people breaking the law in a dangerous way

they aren't going to pull you over and go "GTR hey buddy?"

"umm...no?"

"that's a yellow for you then, ricebitch"

you'll get it for illegal aftermarket mods which everyone has in this forum apart from gr33d, and for the way you drive

BUAHHAAaaaaaaaaa..... thats classic mate.. got a good laugh out of that one.. ahhaaaa.....

how how do i drive?????????? hmm........

i'll get some mods after a while.... i havent even got my car back from the compliers yet :P my cars dewd stock.... but did u mention how kewl id look:lol: heheeee......

U are mostly correct with that one psiko. The cops issue is kinda BS and ure grasping at straws there by trying to say cops give a dam.

I believe ricing is evil for only one reason and that is that it destroys the natural beauty of the car. Why do u think nissan creates concept cars and has a team of engineers working on it and product testing it. What makes some idiot think that he can make it better by puttin 20k of fibreglass on it?

Next time u go to the louvre bring along a neon light and hang it above the 'mona lisa' bet u a million bucks it makes it look like crap. :lol:

hahaha i think this thread is gonna get pretty big:lol: :lol:

i rekon ppl dont need to go to the point of yelling out abuse to other drivers of 'lines, i mean a 'line is a 'line, whether its got stickers, neons, stuffed unicorn (R34:D), dog with nodding head, haha, GTR wing, i have only ever seen ppl of other car makes yelling abuse (ie: ford at holden and viceversa), i mean come on we all probably drive fairly decent cars, no matter what it is, whats a sticker or a couple of neons?? but if skyline drivers are seen yelling abuse out all over the place, thats the thing thats gonna give us a bad name, not a few stickers.

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