Just Cracked over 330awkw

[pnblight]

pnblight: You've spent a portion of this thread bitching about "eastern" people, leave that shit out of his thread...

this car is actually the perfect example why we "eastern whingers" call your quoted power bullshit, look at his mods compared to yours, and he has 90rwhp less, bullshit its just that his figures realistic and his motor is actually built properley

600hp thats a damn impressive list man, should be wicked on the circuit

well if you did your figures you would realise as myself and 600hp there is no where 90hp between us i figure is in 2wd and the other in 4 wd one in kw the other inhp

529rwhp=394rwkw - 44kw or something for the rw to awd figure and well we end up with 350AWKW

compared to 332AWKW

so do you figure correctly before opening your mouth (and the 18kw (is a it different to 90hp) or so is most likely due to the turbo size different)

what you think of this convertion 600hp sound close

even mario said the gt-ss is capable of 350awkw so why would garret be the same

[Emre]

In the risk of opening up another can of worms here, I haven't experienced any difference in power output between 2WD and 4WD dynos.

Admittedly, I haven't been on a 4WD dyno in the past three years, so I am not sure if there has been major differences in the software.

[pnblight]

i can asure you if you make 300 at 2 you will not 300 at 4 there are loses ,the size of which are debatiable ,so i'll leave % to someone who works with dyno every day to lightin us .I think alot of the problem is when we talk in different figures (RWHP to AWKW)

[mesh]

emre based on my experience, I had a 20kw difference between 2wd, to 4wd dyno's. One was at Sti Dockland's and the other when nige took it to bens. chances are though you could be correct, and the variables associated with dyno's could be inconsistant numbers. However based on that, one would say that pnblight needs to shut his big mouth before blasting others, especially coz I reckon your he's an idiot!!. A loss is a loss "drivetrain example" and it's been established not be a % loss as this is inaccurate, evidence has shown around 70-90kw (need to confirm with SK, as he did the test) from engine to rear wheels on a GTR.. so before pnblightningbolt "as usual open that pig headed mouth of his" know the facts...." and do us all the favour you can't spell for sh!t, learn to spell, it gives me a headache reading your posts over & over".. would make life so much easier... EDIT: >> to help the less than fortunate big mouth from the west.. here's a link to the fixed loss vs %loss http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=30238

[raist60]

Im not saying the difference is massive im simply saying that your still ahead power wise despite being dramatically short in terms of hardware compared to 600hp.

[Emre]

I think alot of the problem is when we talk in different figures (RWHP to AWKW)

I don't think so pal.

I am able to differentiate the two, may be you are not.

The figures I gave you in the other thread were all rw readings.

The point I've been trying to make for a very long time is that, there really is no point in quoting dyno figures as they are pretty hard to compare from one to another. Most of the times, they give us comparable results, but often we find ourselves in a debate defending power claims. Funnily enough, all the threads with claims of power are originated from WA. Do you have a need to prove yourselves that much that we read about your extra ordinary achievements regularly, in the name of helping other people.

600hp,

You have a very impressive list of mods there mate, no expenses were spared by the look of things. Regarding future mods, (like a plenum) I would suggest you to do you homework carefully and make sure you are not misunderstanding anything. 22 psi @ 2500 rpm is extremely dramatic.

I just find it very puzzling that Nissan would go through a lot of R&D and develop a multi throttle system on their flagship, for people to dismiss it. How many other manufacturers can you name to develop a 4-6-8 throttle intake on a mass produced vehicle...?

[mokompri]

yeah was about to say 22psi @ 2500rpm is the stuff of dreams..

[rev210]

The point I've been trying to make for a very long time is that' date=' there really is no point in quoting dyno figures as they are pretty hard to compare from one to another. Most of the times, they give us comparable results, but often we find ourselves in a debate defending power claims. Funnily enough, all the threads with claims of power are originated from WA. Do you have a need to prove yourselves that much that we read about your extra ordinary achievements regularly, in the name of helping other people.

I agree. The quoting of dyno figures as a thread topic is not an exclusive WA issue I'm sure you would agree. We are presently in a non-WA thread that started that way. It doesn't really matter. I can easily see why people get their backs up when they place too great a value on their dyno figures. People making the criticisim's are also clearly too infatuated with the glorified toilet paper.

Threads like this one can serve to help others from a 'tuning' point of view. The matching of components and more importantly tuning settings (always lacking I'm afraid) are good to look over and discuss. Lets move on from the Peak horsepower figure it's not that important. I personally couldn't care less if the GT-SS turbo's made such and such a persons car generate a peice of paper with 330rwkw somewhere on it. I'm more interested in what the turbo's are like from a real performance point of veiw , and if they are good, the tune process taken to make them work well.

[pnblight]

Funnily enough, all the threads with claims of power are originated from WA.

Isn't this thread not from wa

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Just Cracked over 330awkw

[600hp]

this thread is from sydney!

and i'm only repeating what i was told from CRD when it comes to power and what boost at what RPM.

as for look at the research that nisan has put into the 6 throttles then why did they have to re do it when they made the Z-tune skyline.

it looks like i may have found a JUN plenum someone is selling and since this plenum has been do before at CRD and had good results, it looks like this is the one to go.

i had a look at the Kaminali intake, it uses a sub-zero throttle body.

both i think are 80mm (SZR is).

as for the whole debate about power all i know is that pnblight has run an 11.3 or something like that and we would love to go as quick as that.

[Sydneykid]

Very short post, Theo has run 9.75 with the STANDARD GTR PLENUM & THROTTLE BODIES:cheers:

[600hp]

we have done everything else so we think we could at least give it a try.

SK have you done much with jun or anything like that on GTR's