drifting in perth??

[stÖrmy]

drifting doesnt need mods, the more mods the easyer it becomes to drift (my thread anywayz) for example to get a stocky r33 sideways (yes it is very possable and not just power-side) it is abit hard due to weight etc etc but if it had like a 400ps and a few sups mods i belived it would be soo much easyer.

drifting is more skill than anything i belived, if in the d1 a 175ps ae86 can out drift a 450ps s15, and a r34 4dr, soarer and chaser which all weight alot can also drift and place in the 10top what can i say.

ohh yeah turn wheels in slightly = camber

what does camber mean ?

and what about sway bars ? are they needed? i always thought the body would start to bend n stuff after lots of drifting without these bars, or am i wrong?

[PACEY]

Stormy do you mean sway bars or strut braces?

[Lozzle]

Denver said it - there's bulk interest here in Perth for drifting - just not the places to do it. Collie is the only place thus far and it's undergoing a transformation which has put off any events (practices & comps).

-Lozzle

[Baz]

what does camber mean ?

and what about sway bars ? are they needed? i always thought the body would start to bend n stuff after lots of drifting without these bars, or am i wrong?

Static camber (as in camber while stationary) is the angle of the wheel to the ground. For example zero camber gives complete and even contact of the tyre with the ground so that it isn't biased on any particular side of the tyre and hence gives more traction.

People often talk up about negative camber so that it compensates for the turning forces in the car so that under heavy turning the car can be as close to zero camber as possible. Too much negative camber however and it will eat away at your tyres quicker than you can say F***, this is why most modded street cars go for about negative 1 degree of camber and race cars go for about negative 2-3 degrees.

Sway bars bars also known as anti-roll bars help the weight transition when cornering. If the bars didnt exist, if you turned really quickly all the weight of the car would move very quickly to one particular side of the car. Upgrading sway bars makes the car much stiffer and puts more even loads on both sides of the car during fast cornering. Also the particular stiffness can affect whether the car understeers or oversteers by nature. This is dependant on the different stiffness of the rear and front sway bars.

[stÖrmy]

Static camber (as in camber while stationary) is the angle of the wheel to the ground. For example zero camber gives complete and even contact of the tyre with the ground so that it isn't biased on any particular side of the tyre and hence gives more traction.

People often talk up about negative camber so that it compensates for the turning forces in the car so that under heavy turning the car can be as close to zero camber as possible. Too much negative camber however and it will eat away at your tyres quicker than you can say F***, this is why most modded street cars go for about negative 1 degree of camber and race cars go for about negative 2-3 degrees.

Sway bars bars also known as anti-roll bars help the weight transition when cornering. If the bars didnt exist, if you turned really quickly all the weight of the car would move very quickly to one particular side of the car. Upgrading sway bars makes the car much stiffer and puts more even loads on both sides of the car during fast cornering. Also the particular stiffness can affect whether the car understeers or oversteers by nature. This is dependant on the different stiffness of the rear and front sway bars.  

Wow nice answer man, so in other words get sway bars for better corning because the weight is distributed evenly ?

So the sway bars dont protect your car body from bendin? is it even possible for a car body to start bending or something after tonnes of drifting ? like say over a couple years of drifting every now n then.

[Baz]

The car will probably start bending after time but I imagine (not quite 100%) the sway bar would bend before any other damage would be done. A stiffer sway means that when a car is cornering, more force is distributed onto the inside wheel rather than dumping it all on the outside tyre. I imagine that having stiffer sway bars elimanates the need for going out and spending heaps on really stiff drift coilovers to get basically the same result. That way the body wont flex as much and softer springs can be used for day to day driving. However if you avoid using coilovers completely you start to worry about centre of gravity etc. etc.

[Black-Beast]

Does anyone have any place like a big wide carpark, where I could just go and practice a

little drifting.

It's so annoying waiting around for these stupid tracks to get their act together.

I just wanna drift. . . argh

[Brodsta]

well as for the next events, have a looksie here...

C-Red are organising a barbagallo day..

http://www.driveline.net.au/news.php?news_id=36

Tenagah motorsports are also organising a day in april down at collie.

Details on that event can be found here http://www.driveline.net.au/eventDetails.p...hp?event_id=177

[Black-Beast]

Yeh, thats good but we need something that we can just go on and have fun and learn. The C-red one is mainly for amateur-pros.

[miss_petepie]

c-red is aimed at mainly pro's. its only for 3 hours on a friday night so they dont wanna have to stop all the time to dig pplz out of the sand. which is fair enough.

collie would be the good idea

there are lots of places to street drift.. but it shouldnt be done... unless u like to bend over and take it whilst u see ur car leave on a trailer

-pie

[Black-Beast]

Collie would be ideal, but how long are they gonna be with their reno's.

What about AHG??

[miss_petepie]

well the training day is april.. so by then it will be fine.. not sure if anything will be planned sooner.

and AHG is out for drift... they do hold MC days there on the skid pans but thats about all..

-pie

[Baz]

We need places like Driftland..... *remembers back to drift bible*

[tigeryas]

driftland? in Niigata, Japan? i've seen that before, for $100 for the whole day i'd take a run...

[Baz]

Hell yeah, someone should make one on a property out of the metro. I would be going there all the time. Well when you think about it. Theres basically nowhere you can take your car to go drifting (legally) or to go and do burnouts other than the drags and the occassional drift meeting at some tracks. I would be spending a bit of time there.

[Lozzle]

You do it.

Find the property and $5748978 to set up the land, concrete, track....!! It's been thought of before.

_lozzle

[ric777]

drifting doesnt need mods, the more mods the easyer it becomes to drift (my thread anywayz) for example to get a stocky r33 sideways (yes it is very possable and not just power-side) it is abit hard due to weight etc etc but if it had like a 400ps and a few sups mods i belived it would be soo much easyer.

drifting is more skill than anything i belived, if in the d1 a 175ps ae86 can out drift a 450ps s15, and a r34 4dr, soarer and chaser which all weight alot can also drift and place in the 10top what can i say.

ohh yeah turn wheels in slightly = camber

and use Khumo tyres, don't need much else

[Brodsta]

i think we just need to keep pushing. Hopefully slowly more people will be interested in sponsoring and we can get more track days.

[Steve]

Are there any skid pans in perth?

[skylineracer1]

theres a drift day at barbagello coming up soon, there is heaps of drift talk around here im perth just go to the silviawa forum and you will see.

but for me the fad is over i was into drifting for about 2 years then it just got old