WRX Club - Rnd 2 - Phillip Island - March 12

[heartbrkr]

woop.

when i said cheap, i meant discounted. i had bendix ultimates put on the front back in october; but for the price my mechanic would charge, i figured i use the money to get some rb74 and install with some help.

spent this afternoon looking up tyres. couldnt find any infos about re55. but for $300+ per tyre, may as well just replace the front two azenis for half that kind of money.

btw, im looking at where to get the steel cable bonnet restraints. they look a lot easier to use than tying a gordian knott out of nylon ribbon. means i can let the motor idle down with the bonnet up, and not burn meself.

got me accomodation sorted. still need to get my extinguisher inspected (monday), luckily i got monday & friday off. should have the bases covered.

[heartbrkr]

Hmm.

According to attendance poll only 9 of us coming?

Just wanted to drop the hint that id be keen to ride shotgun in a gtr during a passenger session =)

unless of course one of me mates demand i take them about in my car..

hb/

[Aaron34]

Thanks for the advice. I don't have any expectations to be able to keep up with anyone at this point, just want to learn how to drive a Skyline and bring it home all in one piece.

Snowman has bigger issues other than me, namely, Frank in his R33GTR. Franks car is running the same power and last time he was at the Island he cracked 1.47s. This time I get the impression from him he's going to go better again.

We may be in for a classic battle between the two of them with both quoting to aim for 1.46s.

[JAGR33]

wwwrxxx - good to see your having a go with the GTR even though you've only had it for a week.... There is no pressure to compete against the 'other' guys, they've been driving a while with the same car....

I'll be out there chugging along, as it will be my second time on a track, and have quite a bit to learn b4 I get to Frank/Andrew's standard...

Last thing I want to do is put pressure on myself to go as fast as them and damage the car...

Just to let you know I'm running the same power as these guys (330rwkws), but definetly not the same times....

I was at the Calder track day, the silver R33 GTR that was parked next to Franks for most of the day....

Looking forward to Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ferni]

Frank has a few more things done to his car than Andrew as well i belive, bigger brakes, and some diff work...

[JAGR33]

Frank has a few more things done to his car than Andrew as well i belive, bigger brakes, and some diff work...

Your right, Frank's got AP six pots, modified transfer case/diffs, and better suspension setup....

Although Andrew is not that far off the pace, I think it was 3 sec at Calder...

[ferni]

yeah calder was 1.02-frank 1.05-andrew. Andrews still damn quick, but don't think he'll be able to match the pace of Frank. We'll find out next Saturday

[Snowman]

Frank WILL go down at PI. It will probably be the only track this year I will have a chance though.

Because consider Franks PB is currently 1.47.7 and mine is 1.49.3 (1.4s diff) - but now I will be going from 250rwkw's to 325rwkw's where as Franks' car is the same. And my car has a whole lot more stickers than Franks which counts for a bit down there.

At this track the brakes are not so much of an issue. And I think Franks suspension/diff set-up is better suited to the lower speed stuff which is why is he so much faster at Calder and Sandown. But either way I think this will be a pretty close contest.

Al - to cover your question RE: Ant and Standard Class. It was decided that 2 things could put you into Modified. 1 - Sticky tyres (So Aaron you in Modified AWD!) and 2- Turbo upgrades WITH approapriate fuel system modifications. So whilst Ant has high flowed his turbo - he is still (as far as I am aware from discussions with him) running the stock fuel system (fuel pump and injectors). So because he also runs normal tyres he is still in Standard Class. ECU's suspension, brakes etc were all free in Standard Class.

[ferni]

Should be interesting then, didn't realise you guys were so close at PI. Will be fun to watch, I just hope i'm not in the same group when you 2 guys are at it - i want to watch

[Aaron34]

no problemo with the classification. modified sounds much cooler...

[Ant97GTR]

Yeah Al - Snowie is spot on. From my understanding you need either stickies or upgraded injectors to run in the mod class. I am running an upgraded fuel pump but my injectors are the std size. In my opinion the biggest limitation in upgrading power are the injectors. You can increase the turbo size, you can use a performance pump etc etc but without the bigger injectors the gtsts are limited to approx 200-250rwkw (unless of course you get your car tuned by a WA specialist )

[RUS]

I will be putting on RE55's just from a safety point of view. My current tyres are not very good, if I am spending money on new tyres for the track I will get high quality. Does this mean I will be put in the modified class? This is my first time on the track and the engine is completely standard, I would prefer to be in standard class. In the end I don't mind either way, if I am put in modified due to tyres I will just be at the back going at my own pace anyway.

Al - to cover your question RE: Ant and Standard Class. It was decided that 2 things could put you into Modified. 1 - Sticky tyres (So Aaron you in Modified AWD!) and 2- Turbo upgrades WITH approapriate fuel system modifications. So whilst Ant has high flowed his turbo - he is still (as far as I am aware from discussions with him) running the stock fuel system (fuel pump and injectors). So because he also runs normal tyres he is still in Standard Class. ECU's suspension, brakes etc were all free in Standard Class.

[Ant97GTR]

Wayne......you are putting on RE55's FOR SAFETY???? How do you figure that?? If you read thru the track threads or do a search most people say stay away from stickies until you've done a few track sessions. Reason for that is you carry a lot more corner speed and the tyres give you no warning before letting go. Unless your current tyres are down to the markers or are retreads I'd say stick with them.......

[RUS]

Sorry, I have given the wrong impression, this is my first time at PI, I have previously driven at winton, calder and sandown and do have track experience.

Wayne......you are putting on RE55's FOR SAFETY????  How do you figure that?? If you read thru the track threads or do a search most people say stay away from stickies until you've done a few track sessions.  Reason for that is you carry a lot more corner speed and the tyres give you no warning before letting go.  Unless your current tyres are down to the markers or are retreads I'd say stick with them.......

[ferni]

Wayne: when they are talking about classes - they dont mean the 'group' that is out on the track, you get grouped randomly i think by the track day organisers, the class doesn't seem to have any effect on which group you are in, you may end up on the track with a bunch of mx5's or may end up on the track with race WRX's and GTR's....

Its a bit silly, i think with the masarati club they ask what times you expect to run and try to group the faster cars together and slower cars together etc...

Don't stress about the class your in, its only for our internal club championship.

[Snowman]

And to also make you feel better the Ice Supra has withdrawn so you only have to compete against Roy, Geoff and Denham (Gareth still unknown) - and 2 of them are a big show of catching on fire anyways and the others have had less track experience than you.

But yes the Classes are just for internal competition and are 99% for fun.

[RUS]

Thanks for the info, now I understand how it works. I missed the first round and therefore lack some knowledge about what goes on.

I will bring down the standard tyres as well just in case it is wet.

[Scotsman]

Even thou Andrew will pull away from me on the straight stuff. I plan on keeping him honest with my measly 230kw. Only time will tell.

[Snowman]

Come on Chris - you have a stage 1 weight reduction now. That's usually worth a few seconds per lap on Gran Turismo!

Speaking of which - I will be bringing GT4 to PI for the weekend.

[SABBAi]

Should be taking corners a tad better now. Might have something to do with widening the track by about 1.5" and running 8" wide rims.... and some better rubber....

I'll be nipping at the heals of you GTS-t's