WRX Club - Rnd 2 - Phillip Island - March 12

[Roy]

Really, back in 2003 i did 5 track days in the space of 7 weeks. All on the same set of RB74s, and poor old tyres:( But the brakes were fine. It was two track days with Motoconcepts at Eastern Creek and 3 Wakefield OPen Practice days...and the pads looked/performed fine:confused:

Interesting that a few ppl have commented on the pad disintegrating. Perhaps with the size rotor im running. sombined with the car weigh/power etc my car doesnt stress pads near as much?

Scott, what rotors are you running, i guess DBA but what diam and width?

[SABBAi]

The rotors are 270mm, 24mm thick. So they're not huge. They are RDA's, sister Company for DBA. They even use the same catalogue numbering system.

In the last few weeks, I think I've found out that I can use WRX specific pads in the front end without doing any mods. Infact, the TX's frictional area is larger than that of the pads Legacy/wrx. The cradles are basically the same, except for mounting points. That's why I'm looking at using legacy twin piston calipers up front.

[Roy]

324 x 30mm v 270 x 24mm with what i guess is similar power/speeds and weight. So i guess thats the reason RB74s are ok on my car. Looks like you may need a higher temp pad.

[INASNT]

Snowman

I was coming off the throttle and coastingfrom around the 200m mark and then going hard on the brakes from 100m mark, and yes a few times i was scrambling to take the corner and gear down while having 2 wheels on the grass/ripple strip. Alot of the time i was stamping on them so hard that i thought the abs would get activated but it never did on that corner.

How many people r confirmed for phillip island so far from here?

I am hoping to fax my forms in Monday morning

[Snowman]

I have a tentative list of 16 entries from SAU. That list includes you Denham. I don't expect everyone to make it for one reason or another. But in a field of 80 thats a fair contingent.

So I stress again if people havent as yet put their forms in to do so. If paying by CC don't be too concerned about payment as I previously mentioned. I put my form in the first week and I still havent been charged. And I dont expect to do so until after the event. So it's best to get those forms in rather than missing out!

[GTRgeoff]

I was braking at 175m on the road tyres at Sandown, but eventually had to go out to 220 with the tyres going off.

Talked to Crazy Frank today at Creatd and he is all on for PI as well. Getting hisself a new moto-cycle as well as trying to talk Ben into making the expedition.

Creatd boys are off to Adelaide with the R33GTSt for the drags with the Bresciani gang. Should be fun. I also did some looking around the stock just in from JPY. A few exhausts, GTR34 wheelset and some aftermarket wheels, 3 RB26 engines to name a few items.

Then on the way home i chatted at the lights with a white GTR34 owner. Thought the car was a Vspec but plates were GTR N1 or something. Roll cage and looked to be Targa spec. Lotsa fuel going through that on boost...."just out for a road test".

[pontiff]

Hi,

I'm new to this group so a big "Howdy ho' goes out to all.

I'll be there with my Subaru Liberty B4 (VIC rego: 'BFOURU') so if you see me, do say g'day.

Being the first track day for me and car it is going to be very interesting, brakes have come in for some Race Brakes fettling and standard sway bars have been replaced with whiteline items so it should be a fun day.

Cheers,

Azza

[Snowman]

Azza - your ferni's mate yeah?

Whats the scoupe with your B4? Anything of interest done to it? Still running the sequential turbo set-up? Now that your a club member we'll put you in the same class as ferni to race against.

[pontiff]

Azza - your ferni's mate yeah?  

Whats the scoupe with your B4? Anything of interest done to it? Still running the sequential turbo set-up? Now that your a club member we'll put you in the same class as ferni to race against.

Yup...Ferni's my mate, we both work at the RACV, 'work' is such a general term

The B4 is a stocker at the moment with the exception of whiteline sway bars front and rear and new brakes courtesy of RaceBrakes in Nth Melbourne.

I want to see how she performs in present guise, then look at areas of particular weakness to improve on, for subsequent outings

Its still running the Sequential setup yes, which consists of a VF33 and a VF34. As you probably know you can turn them into a single turbo setup, but the lease finishes in December 2006 so any mods that I do I want them to be easily reversable so the car will still be easily sold, for the next lease car which I wont bore you with (I'm a crazed BMW fan). To that end I have spoken with Steve Coates @ AVO who is suggesting

1 Legacy 99-00 TMIC

1 AVO-060 Legacy/WRX Bolt-On Blow-Off

1 GEN - Workshop 3" Stainless Cat back Exhaust

1 SMT6-AVOKIT SMT6 Unit & Harness

1 WRX-2001-NOZ AVO Water Spray Nozzles

1 GEN - Pump for Waterspray system

1 LINK-086 Donut Knock Sensor

1 LINK-085-1 KnockLink Outrigger Mod.

1 LINK-086-1 Donut Sensor Parts Kit

which should set me back about $4.4k all up *pats GE Fleet*

Being only 190kw @ present (dunno at wheels) its pretty slow when compared to some of the monsters that are skylines but its an enjoyable ride none the less, as I like my creature comforts (as ferni will attest), so quality Mcintosh stereo, leather electric seats, blah blah blah.

Cheers,

Az

[heartbrkr]

just wanted to ask, how demanding is PI on tyres? no more than sandown/winton? with faster speeds etc.

just wondering if i should be concerned. havent really cash for track tyres.

Getting the car checked over by my mechanic next week. quick inspection, but might end up turning into service.

[heartbrkr]

Other thing i wanted to ask, was about extinguishers. I've got a fire eater, which i took to sandown and winton.

Was there something about inspecting them every 6 months or so? (cams) if so, anyone know how much this would cost. is it cheaper to just replace the thing for $20 =)

ta.

[Downforce]

Other thing i wanted to ask, was about extinguishers. I've got a fire eater, which i took to sandown and winton.

Was there something about inspecting them every 6 months or so? (cams) if so, anyone know how much this would cost. is it cheaper to just replace the thing for $20 =)

ta.

Take it to United Fire Equipment in Moorabbin, they will test your fire extinguisher for free.

68 Levanswell Rd

Moorabbin

(03) 9553 1112

[ferni]

heartbrkr: I took my car on PI track with street rubber, you can't take the corners at teh same speeds the guys with cheater tyres do, but they are still fine.

[GTRgeoff]

Just to add to Ferni's comments, if you are a track newcomer then road tyres are the best way to start to learn. Semi's give very little warning of traction loss, and the slicks I raced on years ago in Sports Sedans gave NONE. Start slow, build up your speeds approaching turns and enter them at gradually faster speeds until you determine what speed is optimal. Then start coming at the corners at higher speeds and start braking later until you have your braking point identified to slow enough to just be entering the corner at the optimal speed. If all goes wrong, just brake hard and try to point the car at the safest spot, usually on the black stuff.

All the best racers agree that anyone with normal co-ordination and the desire to improve can be a good racer with dedication and application of good training. Repeatability is the key to success. See you there (hopefully if the TT gets finished).

[ferni]

Whats this TT Geoff? you sticking Andrews turbos on your car?!?

The hardest part i find not having much track expereince is braking... You soon figure out the lines, but braking at the exact right point as hard as you can without locking up is what i find hardest.

[GTRgeoff]

Ummm yep. Currently on to setup oil lines then manifold welding tomorrow.

But you have cheater ABS on the GTR so what's the problem??? Just pick a point on the track and brake there.

[ferni]

Look forward to seeing it run, wonder how it will go.

I find my wheels lock up for a second before ABS kicks in (i can make it lock up and ease of the brake before ABS kicks in)

I'm not saying i can't do it, but thats the biggest challenge to me at the moment.. consistantly braking at the right point, especially since my speed varies depending on my previous corner exit etc...

[Snowman]

Guys - stopping being slack and put your entry form in FFS!

The current list of entries is up and it looks not far from full - but so far there is only a handfull of people from here on the list!

If you want to make the field - SEND IN YOUR FORM ASAP!!!

SHEEZ!

http://www.wrx.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16851

[Roy]

Farkin Adelaide, im still interstate and car isnt getting done...can we put this off a week or two...car wont have the brakes:(

[ferni]

Faxed mine off this morning.