Charity Cruise Cancelled?

[cammaS15]

As one of my mates put it, Welcome to the world of Government Bureaucracy.

The NCA have contacted me this morning and require public liability insurance on my behalf before they will approve use of the car park. This puts a major dent in the plans of the cruise. I have contacted an insurance company that deals with charity organisations and unfortunately the cost will be around $600 as a minimum. They advised that we an event this big I am taking a massive risk of being sued should something go wrong.

A disclaimer can only go so far, so my options are...

1. Up the cost of the cruise from $10 - $20. Being an upfront fee to be paid before the event so I know who is attending and part of the cruise (and to pay insurance).

2. In the event that I am able to pay for public liability I will have to use/start a non-profit organisation.

3. Cancel the cruise

4. Any ideas?

[Gus-]

move to a new venue i guesss, we could always meet out at cotter or sumthin, or find a new carpark. really bad news mate

[mjfawke]

Ah, the joys of organised events...

SkylinesAustralia is a CAMS affiliated club, isn't it? Therefore, it must be an incorporated club, and this club can take out a public liability insurance policy for club events.

However - given that members don't actually 'join', there might be some issues.

Worth chasing up.

[LTSJayce]

NO-we are not beaten:leave this to me! Have talked to Glenn(Camma S15)-let's just say it's not over until the overly rotund female lets forth a shrill cry!!

[Veilside R33]

FU*K I AM GETTING SERIOUSLY SICK OF OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!!

answer is simple, move the meeting place, cotter is reasonable, but there are better places, questacon carpark, or just next to it at reggatta point? any other suggestions?

i wont be paying any more than $10 to do the cruise and i think you'll find alot of other people hold the same oppinion so the numbers will dramatically drop.

very very angry at our govermnment at the moment!

[Jonneh Bravo]

dude dont cancelllllllll no chance everyone is so looking forward to this. move the venue to somewhere else. why doesnt each car group meet at one point and the cruise together down to the cotter?? will be plenty of parking and the money can be given to a single person in each group. just dont cancel

[Amaru]

Dont bother with the NCA, no-one else ever does when they organise a cruise. The way you have been setting this up, I assumed you were part of a CAMS affiliated club and could get all the appropriate insurance organised through them??

If youre just organising this of your own free time, not through an incorporated club, dont bother with NCA etc. Just list a time and place and people will show.

[Jonneh Bravo]

and i dont think price should be an issue aswell as another $10 wont hurt if it has to be given

[mjfawke]

And here is the incorporated SkylinesAustralian club for NSW (and ACT).

Someone should give Ewan a call and find out if (a) the club has insurance and (B) if the charity run can be made an official club event.

Link

[cammaS15]

Just sent Ewan an email, Duncan a PM. We arent gone yet, Jayce and I are trying everything to keep this going.

For the record, even if we move the event somewhere else I am still liable as the event organiser should someone want to sue. If there were 20 or so cars I wouldnt be worried too much, with around 100 or so I am its a big risk. After the bloody approval process I have been through its bloody ridiculous that the NCA come back to me a week before the event.

We will have to make this happen!

[Amaru]

Skylines Australia NSW is a CAMS affiliated club and has access to public liability insurance under them, but the amount of paperwork required prior to an event would push it back by weeks/months.

If you were running this as an official/CAMS event then you would bother with NCA approval etc.

Just run it as all other clubs do, name a time and place and people will show.

[Aurora]

See what i can do, but why can't we just organise it as an unofficial meet, type deal, as opposed to a club sanctioned event.

[MIVEC]

Maybe because the AFP can come along and break us up easier if it's not an official event??

[cammaS15]

Amaru - Not sure what the situation is with SAU NSW and who they normally arrange public liability insurance with but I have been in contact with Community Care who are able to provide public liability insurance for non-profit organisations fairly quickly. The approval is processed online and I have someone that will look at it straight away should we have an organisation ready to go.

The problem is, if I name a time and place, I am deemed in a court of law, the event organiser and am potentially liable for any law suits. With 100 cars coming its a possibility.

This may come down to me registering as an organisation. Its pretty sad this is required to raise funds for a good cause.

[Sinista32]

I feel really angry ATM, like I am certain all do. However there are enough good pple working to make this happen that I have the confidence it will go ahead.

I'll be there on the day, no matter the outcome. As an individual (in a large group of ppl trying to do some good).

EDIT:

Public Carparks are PUBLIC by nature of definition?

Motor Vehicle accidents that occur either in PUBLIC carparks or on PUBLIC roads are covered under compulsory Motor Vehicle registration/insurance ?

Am I making sense ?

[LTSJayce]

I can understand the issue of public liability:imagine if someone held you responsible for damage to cars and/or people:any of you prepared to lay the rest of your life paying off a bad judgement call? I can't,and wont,blame Glenn for getting nervous! I'm more pissed at the individual/s that must've known this would be required,and left it 'till the last minute(deliberately?) to spring it upon us.Niiiiice work,morons! But,as stated,we're not beaten yet! And can anyone give me the name,so I can query him/her after this cruise is done,of the person that did this? Serious doubt must arise as to their sense of timing and their understanding of their job description...

[SkyGTRline]

NO cancel...

Do we have to give them a name as to the event organiser... cant it be an event created by all? if that makes sense?

[SKYLVIA]

OMG!!! WTF!!! this is bullsh!t!!! we are not cancelling cruise, this was like my highlight for the month!! i wouldnt be happy to pay $10 but if i had to i would, there is NO WAY we are cancelling! ill be soooooo pissed off if its cancelled! atleast we have other options, it better not be cancelled for good. but as of location, im down for anything.

[SupaFly Skyline]

This may come down to me registering as an organisation. Its pretty sad this is required to raise funds for a good cause.

Would it be possible to get the red cross to sign on as the not-for-profit organisation, as they are where the money raised is going?

[leech_]

i am with sinista i have been so looking forward to this. hell if it doesnt go ahead i am happy for sau to just cruise around and have our own barbie. i have been preparing for a while now