who said it was just skylines that cause trouble :)

[Bass Junky]

Give it up guys,

[krzysiu]

*** man they arent Holden Certified Vehicles anymore

[pnblight]

gen 3 v8 = piece of shit

and yes i own one for 3 years and had to get new motor under warrent

oil burning piece of shit

and the one thing that give the clubsport the remotest chance of coming close is the japanise gentlemen agreement if the gtr had been limited to 208kw (like all the awesome car from japan) the commodore would not be on the same paper, why do i say this because there is no car i know of in the world that can be so easily tune for hp as the rb26 per dollar spent on it and has the suspension package std to handle it

the gtr was never designed to be 208kw(more like about 350kw in my opinion)

ie my gtr $40,000

plus ~$8,000 to $10,000 mods

=529.4rwhp 11.3sec(at 480rwhp)

find me a commodore with 400kw at the wheels with brembo brake that can be happily driven every day to work for $50,000

GOOD LUCK

[Slide]

:werd:

[Shell]

yeah anyway...can we just forget about all the Skyline vs Holden crap and just get back to the topic??

if you read the thread, someone posted that he was a 23 yr old in his own car, doing 160 being followed by a cop in an SS. Someone in front of him turned and that's when he launched into the dealership..

He's lucky he didn't kill the ppl who turned, or even someone who was looking at the cars in the dealership :Oops:

[The_Paladin]

more pics?

[R33Hesh]

gen 3 v8 = piece of shit

and yes i own one for 3 years and had to get new motor under warrent

oil burning piece of shit

and the one thing that give the clubsport the remotest chance of coming close is the japanise gentlemen agreement if the gtr had been limited to 208kw (like all the awesome car from japan) the commodore would not be on the same paper, why do i say this because there is no car i know of in the world that can be so easily tune for hp as the rb26 per dollar spent on it and has the suspension package std to handle it

the gtr was never designed to be 208kw(more like about 350kw in my opinion)

ie my gtr $40,000

plus ~$8,000 to $10,000 mods

=529.4rwhp 11.3sec(at 480rwhp)

find me a commodore with 400kw at the wheels with brembo brake that can be happily driven every day to work for $50,000

GOOD LUCK

Damn rite!

[racsov500]

i beleive it was a gtr not a gtst that was compared...who cares anyway

[PTR33]

It really makes me laugh how much trouble these falcadore knuckledraggers go to in an effort to prove that their brand new low km, $70,000 dollar, car is fractionally better than someone elses $35,000 dollar car with 100,000km on the clock.

HELLO? So it bl00dy well should be!! But by a hell of a lot more than fractions of a second over a quarter mile.

If you want to know the best bang for buck car around have a look at getting hold of a sub-$10k VR4, spending about $5k on it and run deep into the twelves.

Personally I think holdens are POS and fords are not much better. 230kw from a XR6T? 4 litres with a GT40 on it blowing 6PSI?!?!? It should be making lots more boost and 400kw.

If they wanted to strangle it down to 300hp why didn't they put a GT28 on it and have it spool just off idle? How responsive would that be?!

W@nkers the lot of them.

[Merli]

Firstly am I ignorant, or are you afraid of the truth?    

Let's talk top of the range. HSV is Holden's top of the range vehicle. GTR is Nissan's top of the range vehicle. Stock on Stock any GTR will beat any HSV. That's a fact.

I'd have to go for a) Ignorant.

A stock GTR is SLOW. It needs about $5000 worth of mods to make it what it should have been from factory.

Any stock HSV will beat any stock R32/R33 GTR. Stock R34 GTRs which are grossly underrated, would give them a run for their money. A GTR isn't the be-all and end-all of cars. They need to be modded to be fast. By today's standards, they're slow when they're stock.

It's this kind of attitude that gives Skyline owners a "wanker" and "ricer" title.... and deservedly so.

[Merli]

Jesus.

I just read the rest of this thread. What has SAU become?

I blame it all on the 15 year old rule

[igor]

I blame it all on the 15 year old rule

And who wants to get '89 GTR? Kidding. Skylines are getting cheaper. Cheap fast cars attract all sorts of people.

[Merli]

And who wants to get '89 GTR? Kidding. Skylines are getting cheaper. Cheap fast cars attract all sorts of people.

I don't want an '89 GTR. I said I'm looking for an R32 GTR. See? People automatically assume that it has to be an '89 model. I blame the 15 year old rule

95% of the '89 GTRs I've looked at, are pieces of sh1t. Finding a good one is like trying to find a vegan in an abattoir, operating the nail gun.

I would have been more than happy paying more for an R32 GTR before the market became saturated with these GTRs that would never have passed regular compliance procedures. GTR ownership should never have fallen to a $17,000 entry fee. It's ridiculous.

[igor]

That's why I said kidding. I reckon it's more to do with popularity of R33 importing. There are a lot of them and they are affordable. As to '89 GTR's - most of them would end up for sale within a year because people did not understand how expensive to maintain they can get. Besides, 15 year old rule is almost over now.

[Merli]

Besides, 15 year old rule is almost over now.

It's too late!!!

[igor]

Ah stop crying. The side effect of 15 yo rule is bringing the prices down for your Ms Right, hopefully you end up with a good looking 13 to 14 year old