who said it was just skylines that cause trouble :)

[hippy]

i'm surprised that no body has mentioned anything about driver training RAR RAR RAR RAR .... if this guy had some driver training then he might not have done it .... i dont' think so ....

[hippy]

the funniest thing ... the number plates "YBYFPV"

WHEN U CAN BUY AN AEROPLANE CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bass Junky]

He will probably be charged the $5000 escess which is due on a test drive.

Why the fu(k would a dealership allow a 19 year old to drive a car like that is beyond me anyway.

Somebody should send this to all medias and inform them of the reckless driving.....

But that will still incriminate all those young drivers who think they are good enough to drive high powered cars on their Ps.

BASS OUT

[hippy]

umm .... there was no test driving .... he was 23yo ... that car was his hence the the personal plates ....

[igor]

The damage is really amazing. Looks like someone drove a tank into the joint.

[Brackez]

Just got back on here: RB30-POWER, wot ali said goes 4 me x 2. In addition, look at price differences. I'd stack $50k of R33 GTR against $50k of anything HSV offer, if they even have anything for that price. Even $95-$100k of HSV would be pushing it's luck to match the GTR, and even then only in a straight line. Remember corners?

[igor]

Be nice boys. Both cars are good for the purpose they serve and the price. Besides it's OT.

[nmcmahon83]

The damage is really amazing. Looks like someone drove a tank into the joint.

At a shade under 2 tonne for the HSV, they prety much did!

[relicr31act]

At a shade under 2 tonne for the HSV, they prety much did!

LOL How can that much plastic be so f****n heavy!!

[SkylineKiller]

You skyline drivers are so narrow minded.

HSVs are not slow.

you have to compait cars stock.

A stock R33 GTS-t runs

($25000)

0-100 in 6.95 seconds

0 - 160 in 15 seconds

400 m in 14.5 @ 157kph (High performance imports mag)

A stock 297kw LS2 clubsport runs

($67000)

0-100 in 4.99 sec

0 - 160kph in 11.85 seconds

400m in 13.01 seconds @ 178kph (motor magazine

(have seen slower times but these were motors quickest) )

R33 GTR stock

($100,000 new)

0-100 in 5 flat

0 - 160 in 12 seconds

400m in 13.3 seconds @167kph (High performance imports mag)

Now im a true HSV/Holden fan. But ill give credit to a good car.

The GTR is a good car. It will beat a HSV from standstill. But... stock. A LS2 HSV is

quicker than a Stock R34 GTR from a roll.... or after 60 kph

Stock R34 GTR 100 - 200kph in 11.5 seconds (British motormag)

VT GTS 300kw(brit version GEN III) in 10.0 seconds

Below. You can see GTRs 4WD advantage from 0 - 60kph

R33 GTR 0 - 60kph = 2.5 seconds (British car mag)

Clubsport R8 0 - 60 = 2.7 seconds (Motor)

But when tracktion is no longer an issue you can see the rolling performance of the clubsport

R33 GTR 60 - 100kph = 2.5 seconds (British car mag)

Clubsport R8 60 - 100kph = 2.3 seconds (Motor)

And more so up top

GTR 100 - 160 = 8 seconds (Brit car mag)

Clubsport 100 - 160 = 6.75 seconds (motor)

LS2 will obviously be alot quicker due to better top end breathing and high torque.

Now lets compair the The stock 297kw Clubsport with a stock GTS-t

A stock R33 GTS-t runs

0-100 in 6.95 seconds

0 - 160 in 14.2 seconds

400 m in 14.5 @ 157kph

A stock 297kw LS2 clubsport runs

0-100 in 4.99 sec

0 - 160kph in 11.85 seconds

400m in 13.01 seconds

A stock 297kw LS2 clubsport runs (On a bad day)

0-100 in 5.5 sec

0 - 160kph in 12.2 seconds

400m in 13.55 seconds

Now which car looks slow?

You cannot compair a stock car with a modified car.

Lets compair 2 equally, lightly modded GTS-t and HSV

225Rwkw GTS-T (60rwkw more than standard)

400m in 12.98 @ 107mph

287Rwkw LS2 Clubsport (60rwkw more than standard)

12.48 @ 113.7 mph

It apears that an equally worked Clubsport is still faster than the GTS-t with high MPH, which means top end wise.... the clubsport is pulling away from the GTS-t

My point is... stock bagging out HSVs saying there slow... cause obviously there not.

Yes there are 300rwkw GTS-ts..... but u cant compair it to a stock Clubsport... and then say its slow. Cause a stock Clubby will chew a stock Skyline.

[chaos]

look at the price difference between a stock clubsport and a stock 33, $42k

put $10k into the 33, still cheaper than the clubsport and does 11sec qtrs

[Laurence]

Don't they get the LS6 soon? The 7.0l V8? Strange thing about that one is it revs to 7K on the Corvette.

Titanium conrods are good jiggers...

[Fly_With_Sky]

Apparently he's going to be screwed, and rightly so, the police took him away within 15 minutes.

He was swerving erratically through traffic before that happened.

The HSVs have got the LS2 don't they? 6.0L V8 297 kw?

Don't they get the LS6 soon? The 7.0l V8? Strange thing about that one is it revs to 7K on the Corvette.

Is the LS6 a 7L v8, sorry but i dont really follow the corvettes or performance cars in usa.

How much worse will the fuel economy be i wonder considering in the motor magazine they claim the hsv r8 with the ls2 6L to suck down 29.5L/100km. Im sorry but i dont think i would be able to live with that sort of fuel economy, too much money wasted on petrol.

[Slide]

skylinekiller = ban

[Slide]

in the new 6l v8's the use a new technology to disable 4 cylinders to efectivley run a 3l 4cyl economy stats would be similar to a car of those specs

[Nexus9]

skylinekiller = ban

Why?

he is entitled to his opinion, just as you are.

I must say that I am sick of hearing B.S about stock GTST's taking down faster cars.

But by the same token when I am on the LS1 forums I am sick of hearing the B.S of stock HSV's taking down GT-R's and Porsches, both camps can be as bad as each other.

Me, I like all cars and can respect them for what they really are.

[R33vit]

I had holdens before I changed to Skyline. Got sick of the bottom end knock, hood lining dropping, rattles in every location of the car. In short, the quality of a Holden leaves much to be desired

[Fly_With_Sky]

You skyline drivers are so narrow minded.

HSVs are not slow.

you have to compait cars stock.  

A stock R33 GTS-t runs

($25000)

0-100 in 6.95 seconds

0 - 160 in 15 seconds

400 m in 14.5 @ 157kph (High performance imports mag)

A stock 297kw LS2 clubsport runs

($67000)

0-100 in 4.99 sec

0 - 160kph in 11.85 seconds

400m in 13.01 seconds @ 178kph (motor magazine

(have seen slower times but these were motors quickest) )

R33 GTR stock

($100,000 new)

0-100 in 5 flat

0 - 160 in 12 seconds

400m in 13.3 seconds @167kph (High performance imports mag)

Now im a true HSV/Holden fan. But ill give credit to a good car.

The GTR is a good car. It will beat a HSV from standstill. But... stock. A LS2 HSV is  

quicker than a Stock R34 GTR from a roll.... or after 60 kph

Stock R34 GTR 100 - 200kph  in 11.5 seconds (British motormag)

VT GTS 300kw(brit version GEN III) in 10.0 seconds

Below. You can see GTRs 4WD advantage from 0 - 60kph

R33 GTR 0 - 60kph = 2.5 seconds (British car mag)

Clubsport R8 0 - 60 = 2.7 seconds (Motor)

But when tracktion is no longer an issue you can see the rolling performance of the clubsport

R33 GTR 60 - 100kph = 2.5 seconds (British car mag)

Clubsport R8 60 - 100kph = 2.3 seconds (Motor)

And more so up top

GTR 100 - 160 = 8 seconds (Brit car mag)

Clubsport 100 - 160 = 6.75 seconds (motor)

LS2 will obviously be alot quicker due to better top end breathing and high torque.

Now lets compair the The stock 297kw Clubsport with a stock GTS-t

A stock R33 GTS-t runs

0-100 in 6.95 seconds

0 - 160 in 14.2 seconds

400 m in 14.5 @ 157kph

A stock 297kw LS2 clubsport runs

0-100 in 4.99 sec

0 - 160kph in 11.85 seconds

400m in 13.01 seconds  

A stock 297kw LS2 clubsport runs (On a bad day)

0-100 in 5.5 sec

0 - 160kph in 12.2 seconds

400m in 13.55 seconds  

Now which car looks slow?

You cannot compair a stock car with a modified car.

Lets compair 2 equally, lightly modded GTS-t and HSV

225Rwkw GTS-T (60rwkw more than standard)

400m in 12.98 @ 107mph

287Rwkw LS2 Clubsport (60rwkw more than standard)

12.48 @ 113.7 mph

It apears that an equally worked Clubsport is still faster than the GTS-t with high MPH, which means top end wise.... the clubsport is pulling away from the GTS-t

My point is... stock bagging out HSVs saying there slow... cause obviously there not.

Yes there are 300rwkw GTS-ts..... but u cant compair it to a stock Clubsport... and then say its slow. Cause a stock Clubby will chew a stock Skyline.

mate, when the hell did i say hsv's are slow. So maybe you should direct your comments at those who said they were, not generalise.

If you cant then go back to you holden forums if you are such a huge fan.

[Slide]

this is a skyline forum isnt it nex???

he obviously has no appreciation for what has been set up here

i reakon he is a member already that setup a new account just to express his biased opinions

just a joke nyways

[nmcmahon83]

How can you compare a 2004 car to a 1993 car?? there 11 years of technology in there... The point made was that an R33 GTS-t is better value for money than a new clubsport...

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