SAWAKITA Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 ummm.. i wonder whats gonna happen if u compair with same kw on both car?? and why compair HSV with NISSAN not with a NISMO??(e.g. NISMO 400R?) anyway nice info u've provide... but i still like Skylines more than Holden... it just looks so much better... cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1215626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_hole Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 haha i can't believe how many people fell for this thread, got to give the poster credit Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1215691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JXL Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 k_hole Registered User Location: Perth Join Date: Feb 2005 Trader Rating: (0) k-hole you sure you aint the reincarnation of skylinekiller or a buddy of sidewndr who have all joined on Feb 2005 just to have a look at how wrong all your comparison posts are. and non of the holden or v8 supporters have answered my question about why do v8s need a 5.7L car with that much engine power to get a car to perform the same as a 2.6L car with 1/2 the power and its 10 years older. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1215704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim1 Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 heres a decent comparison http://members.lycos.co.uk/harryoz/Downloads/ v8's are the win Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1215759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarkis Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 The GTR wins Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1215817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Paladin Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 isnt the rivaly between holden and ford???? nissian/toyota could be the new ford........ that guy's just a bogan..........pitty him and be thankful you dont have his knowledge of cars Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1215818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
croat Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 The most enjoyable read ever was when they compared to R34 GTR to some New HSV in a speed mag i think. Both were equally modified (just a few small bolt-ons, boost and computer), and the T34 GTR beat the Holden in every aspect from rolling start to breaking etc... There is no argument that Holden has some catching up to do! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1215838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluprint Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 That was in Speed magazine I think yeah The GT-R mauled the crap out of the GTS, and the GTS even broke some of it's drivetrain (I distinctly remember the 1 week old KAAZ LSD going snap) But I'd have to say the most enjoyable read of the kind I've ever had was in Wheels magazine in 2002 I think, R34 GT-R V-Spec 2 Nur vs HSV V2 Coupe GTS both dead stock The Skyline pulled the Gen3 out the Monaro's arse and I loved every word of it. Maybe Skylinekiller should go read that article. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1215886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 ...and non of the holden or v8 supporters have answered my question about why do v8s need a 5.7L car with that much engine power to get a car to perform the same as a 2.6L car with 1/2 the power and its 10 years older. Thats easy, because GM can use light utility/truck engine as the basis of a performance engine to get cheap, reliable/durable performance. Throw in some alloy casting and the thing actually doesnt hurt sitting up the front of a sports car/sedan. The V8 saves the hassle and complexity of turbocharges adding weight and heat, extra cooling / packaging requirements, adding to service intervals of the car etc etc. And as for fuel economy etc etc. Think about it, if you put your boot into either, they both suck gas. Power is a result of flow thru the engine, and in turn the more power you make the more air you consume and accordingly the more fuel you need to use. If you want to compare sports car to sports car, not sports sedan, compare the performance to a Corvette, an Ultima, a Robnell Cobra a TVR Cerbera. Lotus Espirit GT or another V8 powered Coupe/Sports car. ...You start to realise that V8 powered sports cars are an expensive breed, even 2nd hand with the exception perhaps of a 928GTS I cant believe this thread is still going...a think some Nissan drivers have blinkers just as big as Holden drivers:( ..and credit to Nissan the R32 GTR, they out foxed everyone in the old Grp A days. Holden were homolgating an ordinary sedan, Ford a shopping trolley, BMW a mass production rwd NA 4cylinder and Nissan go and BUILD a twin turbo, 4WD car from scratch to make the most of the rules and the class. They did the best job, but they did it with a blank canvas that was the R32 series, everyone else was throwing fibregalss and turbos/throttle bodies at road cars. If you look at the job Nissan was doing with the DR30 and the R31 in the GrpA days, it just highlights the huge leap they took with the R32:thumbsup: Thsi debate always ends in arguments, lol, i think thats why they are started, its as bad as talkign about who's girlfriend is better looking:) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_hole Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 k-hole you sure you aint the reincarnation of skylinekiller or a buddy of sidewndr who have all joined on Feb 2005 just to have a look at how wrong all your comparison posts are. all i'm saying is that this is a gimmick and its pretty funny people like Roy have made some good posts so its not all a loss Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
383chevvy Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 only milk and juice comes in 2liters Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHATR32 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 and cheap wine comes in 5L Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver gts-t Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 only milk and juice comes in 2liters omg you come in here to argue with one of the worst lines in history!! your going to get bent over and y is this thread still going Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHATR32 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 which makes me wonder why holden need 7L to get things moving?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_hole Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 omg you come in here to argue with one of the worst lines in history!!your going to get bent over and y is this thread still going i'm pretty sure he was joking, his name is 383chevvy or whatever afterall Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
383chevvy Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 omg you come in here to argue with one of the worst lines in history!!your going to get bent over and y is this thread still going but its true. in my fridge i have 2 liters of apple juice and two 2L bottles of full cream milk. is this a false statement? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
383chevvy Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 which makes me wonder why holden need 7L to get things moving?? why does nissan need 2.6L and mazda only need 1.3L then Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHATR32 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 heres a decent comparison http://members.lycos.co.uk/harryoz/Downloads/v8's are the win v8's are the win? so why does the gtr get 5 stars and the hsv get 4? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHATR32 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 why does nissan need 2.6L and mazda only need 1.3L then yeah, that makes you look even more stupid, when a 1.3 flogs a 7? :shake: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver gts-t Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 why does nissan need 2.6L and mazda only need 1.3L then just curious, ur arguing a point that makes u look even worse. if you put a 1.3l next to a 2.6l and debate it all you like, but then if i put the 1.3l mazda next to a 5l+ engine and compare the two it would make you look worse off, so you were better of not replying to anything besides thats like comapring apples with oranges, pointless Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/64819-stop-baggin-hsvs/page/13/#findComment-1216477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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