My R33 Rolls too much! (track preparation)

[David Kemps]

Hey guys,

I've got a R33 Gts25t

Suspension/handling mods:

-Tein HA's 10kg front, 8kg back

-9 inch wide 17's

-front strutbrace

Next on List

-Hicas lock bar

-whiteline swaybars

-pineapples/solid mounts

After putting in the HA's the car handles much better, but still find it rolls too much for my liking. I'm going to the track in about 2 months, just wanting some advice about stopping this roll.

I want to get whiteline swaybars, was considering 27mm front, 22mm back, just wondering, who has these and does it really stop the car rolling that much.

I mean, I would have thought the car would sit flat with the hard springs on it, was surprised when it still rolled. (pushing pretty hard)

Any other tips to get the car sitting flat, the car has great grip at the moment, just wanting it to sit flatter, don't want to get swaybars and find they aren't good enough.

I want to be able to go hardout around the track on occasional trackdays without the car rolling around, maybe even a little bit of drifting.

Sydneykid - I know you don't like jap shocks, but they were cheap so I got them and have been impressed, I do like them hard, mostly drive around with them on half, now just want to add to the coilovers with other improved handling parts.

Sorry if the post doesn't make sense, too tired!haha

Oh and are the adjustable swaybars, although smaller diameter still can be adjusted to be more stiff than the biggest non-adjustable one? or not?

Dave

[PLYNX]

Put the biggest, fattest front sway bar on the front that you can find as most of the rolling is set up by the front of the car. Youll be shocked at the difference.

[Silver-Arrowz]

Swaybars. I don't think it's good to have one fat swaybar at the front and stock ways on the rear. Car would understeer badly. Replace BOTH sways to get a better balance.

[Genesis®]

i had a 27mm in front and adjustable 22-24mm at the back for my previous skyline and it handles beautifully. clocked a pretty good time at the track as well considering its only an NA

[(B1) MR_fanny]

yep swaybars, the both of them is your answer. very noticable improvment in handling esp body roll.

[David Kemps]

Thanks guys. Can the whiteline adjustables be turned up stiffer than the non-adjustables or not?

I looked on the whiteline website and they have:

FRONT

24mm adjustable

27mm non-adjustable

REAR

22mm adjustable

22mm non-adjustable

It leads me to think the stiffess swaybars to buy would be:

FRONT

27mm non-adjustable

REAR

22mm adjustable

What do you guys think?

[Silver-Arrowz]

Stiffer doesn't = better.

Too stiff and the tyres won't grip under the load.

I've always said get adjustable ones because you can tune the sways into your driving style.

[Sydneykid]

On the race R32 GTST, we run 27 mm adjustable on the front and 24 mm adjustable on the rear in the dry and 22 mm adjustable on the rear in the wet. Easily the best and most cost effective handling improvement you can make.

We run no more than 8 kgmm front spings and 4.5 kgmm rear springs, and it will lift the inside front wheel on corner exit using "R" compound tyres. Note that most of the roll you can feel is the outside tyres compressing under the load. As a few of the guys have said, you can easily have suspension that is too stiff and won't absorb the track irregularities. Plus a fast time sometimes requires use of the ripple strips, and you can't do that if the suspension is too stiff to absorb the impact.

Remember the object is to go fast, not rattle your teeth out:cheers: