ORC Twin vs Nismo Twin

[R31Nismoid]

I think nismo GMAX is the only twin that doesnt rattle but i might be wrong. I actually like the rattle. Swaps ? haha

yes Nismo GMAX twins etc do not rattle.

Me, i prefer it to be honest. Just a bit of noise.

I love my OS Twin plate. Very nice to drive, not too bad in heavy traffic.

It can also be rebuilt as the plates can be had for around $600 each.

[Lunatic Dancer]

hehe...rattle is cool ^^

basically..to install a twin place you need

-twin plate clutch

-sleeve bearing (smaller diameter) instructions should have nissan part no.s

-sleeve carrier (shorter) ""

-forged pivot ball (nismo etc, highly recommended)

to get the best out of it i'd recommend

-stainless steel clutch line (increases response, takes out vagueness, also take out the clutch loop from original assembly)

-lager slave cylinder (nismo etc...decreases pedal pressure, better level of control, drive ie. parking)

only problem with multiplate clutches is when its time to replace them its very costly.

But they can handle alot of abuse, as long as you can thrash the car WITHOUT slipping the clutch at all they will last a long long time...

also i dont see how the nismo one would be any less hassle that installing an ORC type...

but they are both good clutches so either one would do well..

[Scotsman]

Exedy twin and tripple clutches come from the same parent manufacturer in Japan as the Nismo GMax. They both have a small spring loaded bracket between the plates that pushes them appart evently to try to eliminate the rattle.

Maybe if you get the clutch balanced properly before installing, it would disengage more evenly and not rattle. Dunno just thinking out loud.

Lunatic - I understand the pivot point and when you say sleeve bearing I assume this is the spigot bearing (Like this one http://www.nismo.com.au/pricelists/General...eedlespigot.jpg) But WTF is a sleeve carrier?

[PSIKO]

Can you give me any contact details ??...I have a NISMO G-Max twin plate that needs a couple of plates.

When you take the clutch apart it has the exedy part number mate

I've got a Nismo G-Max twin plate as well, it's an AWESOME clutch and yep no rattles, very grippy and isn't either on or off (sprung centre)

[Lunatic Dancer]

ok..the pivot bolt is the lil thing the clutch Fork 'pivots' on...

the bearing carrier is the thing the sleave bearing is pressed into..

the bearing carrier is attached to the clutch fork...

it slides up and down the main shaft when as you clutch in and out..

and the sleave bearing ofcourse, is what pushes against the pressure plate fingers..

this is for push type obviously...

you're right about the lil spring eliminating the rattle though..

[Scotsman]

Yep cool gotcha. I knew the bearing as a thrust bearing, and this sits inside the sleeve carrier. Cool. Am I an expert now?

[WetGTR]

Another one for the Nizmo G-Max twin Plate.. No rattles! Awsome grip! Easy driving!

I have 417awkw in my GTR and it has never slipped.....and it feels just like a stock clutch

[Lunatic Dancer]

yeh...probably the words i used wasn't the proper ones....

but yes..you are now officially a clutch expert haha

[Blitz]

The Nismo G-Max has been replaced now by the Nismo Super Coppermix single and twin plate series. The twin plate kit is supposedly rated at 640PS - Im currently waiting the arrival of mine and will post up my impressions of it after its fitted.

[WetGTR]

This will be interesting, is there any technical differences between the two?

Wonder how the new clutch series will perform, feel and handle...

[klys]

Sorry for resurecting this very old thread but it's the closest one I could find with alot of relevant info.

I ordered an ORC 709D twin plate clutch but I haven't received it yet.

Instructions are suposed included as this is a brand new clutch.

However I'd like to have all the necessary hardware when the clutch gets here, of course!

does anyone know of the nissan parts# that I will need? I already had a twin plate clutch(unknow brand)

but it's now busted. I had new NSK throw out bearing installed last year when I had my tranny replaced.

I don't know if it had a forged pivot bearing but it did last close to 50 000km. Any info will be greatly appreciated since I need to have everything installed by April 22nd since I have a Lapping Academy Weekend!

thanks guys

Edited March 31, 2007 by klys

[mambastu]

Sorry for resurecting this very old thread but it's the closest one I could find with alot of relevant info.

I ordered an ORC 709D twin plate clutch but I haven't received it yet.

Instructions are suposed included as this is a brand new clutch.

However I'd like to have all the necessary hardware when the clutch gets here, of course!

does anyone know of the nissan parts# that I will need? I already had a twin plate clutch(unknow brand)

but it's now busted. I had new NSK throw out bearing installed last year when I had my tranny replaced.

I don't know if it had a forged pivot bearing but it did last close to 50 000km. Any info will be greatly appreciated since I need to have everything installed by April 22nd since I have a Lapping Academy Weekend!

thanks guys

This will help you if someone can translate ?

http://www.oguraclutch.co.jp/orc/pdf/orc20...e&fluid.pdf

From the above PDF can anyone see if it mentions the friction plate minimum thickness is and also what the part numbers are for replacement friction discs on the ORC 709D

Edited April 2, 2007 by mambastu

[STATUS]

Really is it that bad. Stuff the ORC then .. I dont like rattles at all ..

ORC do a silent plate option also.

[bnr#@]

The 709 come in 2 versions. The normal 709 twin and the 709D where the D stands for dampened

[T04GTR]

nismos are good but ware out a little bit faster. the g max spec 2 doesnt rattle. the spec 3 does and is 20 times harder to use

[zboost300]

Is anybody running the nismo super coppermix competition model? How does it compare to the regular super coppermix?