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i like LEDs/Neons, though as with anything it can be done the good way or the bad way.

i have seen 4WDs with them and that is just silly.

i have a particular setup in mind for mine and i still think they are as much for the driver as they are for anyone viewing your car. though in saying that, i don't really care whether anyone else likes my car as it is an expression of myself.

some of these points people have made about you not seeing them... what about bodykits? rims? etc... why bother with a style at all?

-if i owned a GTR i would remove all badges, even the GTR badges. some people will think that crazy but i don't like badges, i know it's a GTR and that is all that matters.

Firstly, a 4wd may actually have a practical use for underbody lighting in rough terrain at night, to ensure negotiation of areas with underbody hazards. No more silly (actually less so) than having them on your car or any other. Unless your saying your silly too?

Unlike neons, a set of well chosen rims with advantages of weight and dimension can substancially improve a vehicles performance. Ditto for a body kit. A primary reason for a change in bumpers and spoilers is to improve aerodynamics and down force a fundamental in handling performance. You might consider that these addtions are seen by the regular public to be associated with race vehicles for good reason. However 'rice' can be found here too. For the most part the spoilers offered for skylines are based on good designs from a performance perspective. The ones for hyundai excels less so.

If you owned a GTR, I don't see why you would care one way or the other about badges. You wouldn't fool anyone who knows anything about them unless you fit a hyundai body to it. You see everyone who knows GTR's will also know you have a GTR even without badges. People who don't know about GTR's generally don't know what the badge means anyway.

What matters is you don't own a GTR.

How would it benefit a 4wd though if you can't see them when your driving, as your previously stated earlier in the thread. Sure if someone was on the outside looking at it at night and communicating with driver, then that would work, but yeah.

And i agree with your argument with bodykits aswell, this is turning into quite an enjoyable debate :(

Tinting also, can be seen as "wank" factor or rice...

But at the same time it can be seen as a security measure when done right, when done with a graphic through it it could be seen as Rice etc, i personally think it mostly looks good, cus its different to the "norm" of society.

Im always up for anything that stands out and is different.

Good on anyone who goes for it regardless what they drive.

Firstly, a 4wd may actually have a practical use for underbody lighting in rough terrain at night, to ensure negotiation of areas with underbody hazards. No more silly (actually less so) than having them on your car or any other. Unless your saying your silly too?

Unlike neons, a set of well chosen rims with advantages of weight and dimension can substancially improve a vehicles performance. Ditto for a body kit. A primary reason for a change in bumpers and spoilers is to improve aerodynamics and down force a fundamental in handling performance. You might consider that these addtions are seen by the regular public to be associated with race vehicles for good reason. However 'rice' can be found here too. For the most part the spoilers offered for skylines are based on good designs from a performance perspective. The ones for hyundai excels less so.

If you owned a GTR, I don't see why you would care one way or the other about badges. You wouldn't fool anyone who knows anything about them unless you fit a hyundai body to it. You see everyone who knows GTR's will also know you have a GTR even without badges. People who don't know about GTR's generally don't know what the badge means anyway.  

What matters is you don't own a GTR.

the term 'rice' is thrown around far too often.

neons were around long before the F&F movies.

i wasn't talking about skylines in particular. i refer to all cars. sure i think its funny to see an excel with flip paint and a crazy bodykit and $$$'s spent on all the crap but i am sure that they love their car just as much as me and who am i to say that it is silly?

yes some bodykits are developed by large racing companies and improve traction and aerodynamics etc but most are copies or unresearched jobs, once again i am not only referring to skylines here.

most rims on cars are not strong or well designed, merely chrome fob offs of famed designs or looks and can be quite dangerous and damage easily.

thats right, no GTR here, cos if i could afford one, i'd spend the cash on an NSX instead :(

it's the old 'each to his own' ... if you like it you do it, i bet some of those people you see with front wheel drive cars and huge GT spoilers think that spending countless amounts of cash on making your car do 300kph on roads where the limit is one sixth of that is kind of silly too.

as for neons 'assisting' 4WDs to see better ??? why on earth would the driver be trying to look under his car as he is drving?? i think it is silly because they are so high up that the light is less effective and also that there is no 'floating' effect, you can see quite clearly where the neons are.

oh and it's "you're" not "your", sorry personal annoyance heh.

MirKz,

I find it much easier to ignore the people that are "flaming" you. And then appreciate the people that respect your choice.

In my opinion neons aren't the greatest but like you said, with your car you wanted to do it.

Look at the first picture. It's good.

Look at the second picture. You figure it out...

crap

i have neons in my footwells and i like the look of them on some cars

Good on Mirks for making his car how he wants its and not bowing to pressure to conform. "RICE is in the eye of the beholder"

I said GENERALLY....as in not all. But u must conceed that a 44yo liking neons is def. the exception.

the term 'rice' is thrown around far too often.

neons were around long before the F&F movies.

i wasn't talking about skylines in particular. i refer to all cars. sure i think its funny to see an excel with flip paint and a crazy bodykit and $$$'s spent on all the crap but i am sure that they love their car just as much as me and who am i to say that it is silly?

yes some bodykits are developed by large racing companies and improve traction and aerodynamics etc but most are copies or unresearched jobs, once again i am not only referring to skylines here.

most rims on cars are not strong or well designed, merely chrome fob offs of famed designs or looks and can be quite dangerous and damage easily.

thats right, no GTR here, cos if i could afford one, i'd spend the cash on an NSX instead :)

it's the old 'each to his own' ... if you like it you do it, i bet some of those people you see with front wheel drive cars and huge GT spoilers think that spending countless amounts of cash on making your car do 300kph on roads where the limit is one sixth of that is kind of silly too.

as for neons 'assisting' 4WDs to see better ??? why on earth would the driver be trying to look under his car as he is drving?? i think it is silly because they are so high up that the light is less effective and also that there is no 'floating' effect, you can see quite clearly where the neons are.

oh and it's "you're" not "your", sorry personal annoyance heh.

I mentioned the history of neons earlier in the thread.

The 4wd thing. If you have ever been almost up to the axles in it at night time a light is always handy was my thought, if you have ever been in a 4wd in this stiuation you will know that you get out to check. Oh... that is for people who actually take their 4wd off road, I guess for the neon user it would be a given they bought the car for the perception of safety so I guess it's not the case. Thats the 4wd version of rice.

Floating effect? You do think your car is a spaceship!

About the body kits. I think an NA R33 skyline falls into the category of a non-performance body kit. Looks like a turbo skyline but, doesn't go.

If you remember back to your first refference to the body kits and rims you directed your retorical question to those on this thread who condemed the neons. In this case I will be bold and suggest that all of them base their decisions on rim and spoiler purchase on performance (to a substancial extent not withstanding there is enough variety to afford personal taste too).

Glad to hear you wouldn't buy a GTR, I could do without seeing one of those with neons. Good luck with the NSX but, mate I reckon you should stay with the NA skyline afterall you aren't interested in performance are you?

You mention spending money on making a car capable of exceeding the speed several times is silly. My car came factory equiped to do this. It may suprise you to realise that many people on this forum enjoy off road motorsport activities. The thrill of your cars performance is the focus of a true enthusiast. To chase greater performance through not only car development but, improved skill is the hallmark.

I have a wing but I don't move fast?

I'm a chicken!

what a rubbish thread!

Half the people on this forum are scared to admit if the do like the look of neons anyway, because others are so big on the performance push.

Personally i couldnt be bothered having them and would spend the money on performance, but its like anything. Why put a bodykit and mags on? You cant see these from inside the car either Rev210. ..Attention....why buy new clothes to go out with? <--has anyone done this before?

what a rubbish thread!

. Why put a bodykit and mags on? You cant see these from inside the car either Rev210. ..Attention....why buy new clothes to go out with? <--has anyone done this before?

I did indicate that I buy mags and body kits ,when and if I need to, based on performance considerations only.

Why buy new clothes you ask?

We could turn this into a performance issue from a socialisation point of veiw. Or perhaps in the case of athletics we can turn this back into a dynamic performance argument.

I am certainly not arguing against peoples desire or will to purchase neons. Afterall I find the utilitarian understanding of life is lacking.

Then again I haven't used neons on any car I have owned so maybe I should test them on the Volvo wagon? This way I may discover how good they are. Then I can write a book titled "THE JOY OF NEON". :(

I like neons, love to make people look at my car. Wouldnt do it purely for the fact I already cop shit for the car and its just another thing that makes people look at it more.

Think the look good on anything when the globe cant be seen and the car is low enuf to the ground.

My own opionion.

Good on ya Mirkz.

You cant see these from inside the car either Rev210. ..Attention....why buy new clothes to go out with? <--has anyone done this before?

Yes but the argument is about over dressing for the occasion. Some people have dress sense some people don't.

I did indicate that I buy mags and body kits ,when and if I need to, based on performance considerations only.

would you have bought the same mags if they only came in pink ?

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