Police Chases- What do you reckon?

[TEAMSHADOW]

thats why aust is so bad wen it comes to dealing with crimes....therefore they are focusing on wat they do best...catching speeding cars on speed cameras, and checking train tickets.

they really oughta focus on more training wen it comes with dealing with riots and car chases.

laws oughta be toughened up to scare off would-be-criminals

capital punishment oughta be a good start, and i dont mean the sissy sorta death sentence like poison injection...i mean the harsh stuff like being lined up and shot by a firing squad....

u might think its a bit too drastic and over the top, but u will think otherwise wen these outlaws plow thru ur loved ones as a result of a typical stolen 'joyride' WHOOPS! there goes ur family..ah well, 3 months for each member oughta be enuf right?

[Kel]

The media has focused on "innocent" people being killed in police chases and the fact that a high number of chases start because of drivers committing traffic offences.

Here's an interesting article from SMH which talks about the stats for NSW.

It would be good to see them do a similar investigation on the number of innocent people in NSW killed or impacted by drivers breaking the law (including traffic offences) but NOT being pursued by police- would make the debate far more balanced.

Police pursuit death toll rises: 61 killed in 10 years

By Debra Jopson

March 4, 2005

At least 61 people have died during police pursuits in NSW over the past decade, a higher toll than previously revealed.

A Herald investigation last year found that 54 people had been killed in high-speed police car chases over the 10 years since November 1994, but five more deaths have been exposed through figures obtained under freedom of information laws.

The deaths last Friday of two teenagers, Dylan Rayward and Matt Robertson, which sparked the Macquarie Fields riots, have brought the toll to at least 61.

Police have said that pursuit lasted less than one minute.

While the latest victims were on the run from police, nine of the 61 killed were passers-by and another two were police officers.

The extra deaths have come to light in a police document listing pursuits resulting in deaths from March 1997 to May last year.

The document gives scant details, revealing, for instance, that there was one fatality in March 1997 at Wallarah Road, Gorokan, on the Central Coast, while one person died and two were injured at Four Mile Road, Brewarrina, in October 2003.

But the Herald has been able to gather additional information on three of the deaths:

David Kristian, 24, was a passenger in a stolen car driven by Peter John Cousins that hit a cement truck while doing 130-140kmh in April 2001, according to a NSW Court of Criminal Appeal judgement. The chase lasted about 14 minutes through streets in Hurstville which, the judgement said, were "moderately to heavily trafficked". Mr Kristian and his girlfriend, Kelly Ton, 21, had been offered a lift by Cousins at Kogarah. Ms Ton spent three weeks in hospital after the crash. Cousins, then 37, was sentenced to eight years' jail.

Jamal Issa, 31, died when his car hit a tree in the Royal National Park in January 2003. He was armed and had earlier hijacked a car and its driver. Police were justified in chasing him, but the two officers involved had breached safe-driving guidelines, the State Coroner, John Abernethy, found last month.

A man died at Allandale Road, Pokolbin, in the Hunter Valley in November 2002 during a pursuit. According to media reports, he had robbed a service station and then rammed a police wagon. His car hit a truck and exploded.

Of the 2193 police pursuits last financial year 182 ended in a collision, according to the latest NSW Police annual report.

More than six in 10 pursuits were initiated because of a traffic offence; one in 10 concerned a criminal offence. Fewer than two in 10 (17 per cent) were to apprehend car thieves.

Seven freedom-of-information requests submitted almost six months ago have so far yielded only five pages of information on police car chases.

[Babylon]

"The Ferrari Formula 1 Team fired their entire pit crew yesterday, after a lacklustre performance that is believed to have caused Michael Schumachers accident.

The announcement that followed was Ferrari's decision to take advantage of the Australian Government's Youth Opportunity scheme and employ people from Macquarie Fields.

The decision to hire them was brought on by a recent documentary on how unemployed youths from the Macquarie Fields area were able to remove a set of wheels in less than 6 seconds without proper equipment, whereas Ferrari's existing crew can only do it in 8 seconds with millions of euros worth of high-tech equipment.

John Howard went on record as saying this was a bold move by the Ferrari management, which demonstrated the international recognition of Australia's employment practices under his Liberal government. As most races are won and lost in the pits, Ferrari now have an advantage over every team.

However, Ferrari may have got more than they bargained for......At the crew's first practice session, the Macquarie Fields pit crew successfully changed the tyres in under 6 seconds, and then within 12 seconds they had re-sprayed, re-badged, and sold the vehicle to the McLaren team for a slab of VB, a kilogram of speed and some photos of Montoya's girlfriend in the shower.

In other news Williams have signed up local hero Jesse Kelly as their new driver, due to experience in being able to escape other vehicles while under pressure at high speed.""

[Kel]

"The Ferrari Formula 1 Team fired their entire pit crew yesterday, after a lacklustre performance that is believed to have caused Michael Schumachers accident.

The announcement that followed was Ferrari's decision to take advantage of the Australian Government's Youth Opportunity scheme and employ people from Macquarie Fields.

The decision to hire them was brought on by a recent documentary on how unemployed youths from the Macquarie Fields area were able to remove a set of wheels in less than 6 seconds without proper equipment, whereas Ferrari's existing crew can only do it in 8 seconds with millions of euros worth of high-tech equipment.

John Howard went on record as saying this was a bold move by the Ferrari management, which demonstrated the international recognition of Australia's employment practices under his Liberal government. As most races are won and lost in the pits, Ferrari now have an advantage over every team.

However, Ferrari may have got more than they bargained for......At the crew's first practice session, the Macquarie Fields pit crew successfully changed the tyres in under 6 seconds, and then within 12 seconds they had re-sprayed, re-badged, and sold the vehicle to the McLaren team for a slab of VB, a kilogram of speed and some photos of Montoya's girlfriend in the shower.

In other news Williams have signed up local hero Jesse Kelly as their new driver, due to experience in being able to escape other vehicles while under pressure at high speed.""

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[ChaserV]

He is guilty.

But what we have to remember is, "he was a good kid".

Who stole a car and crashed it, killing two of his mates and then fleeing the scene,

But, "he was good kid".. :D

Does anyone else get pissed off when the criminals mum and sisters keep saying that...

[AndyMac]

"You do the Crime, You do the Time".

Everytime people decide to protray its okay to do crime, because you come from a disadvantaged backround, you kick sand in the face of the other percentage that has made something of themselves.

If it was a case of stealing food, ripping off money from telephone booths or anything like that, I could understand the need.

This was joy ride, joy riders come from all walks of life. No-One has the right to steal anyones belongings at all.

As for the police. You look at them next time you see them in McDonalds or local sporting event, look how young they are..... Thats enough.

[Silver-Arrowz]

He's a "good kid" at 20yo??? He's got a child of his own yet he's "a good kid"???

Makes me believe there should be a licence to have kids since 20yo "kids" are breeding stupidity.