Turbo's For All

[Syphon]

Dan

FYI

A couple of links for you

http://horsepowerinabox.com/HPIAB2/prod296.htm

this second link is of a GT30 500hp jobby which can be bought with a .63 turbine housing

http://horsepowerinabox.com/HPIAB2/prod18.htm

[The Dan]

These are custom made. The turbo is still a Garrett unit but it is not released by Garrett like that. I have been told this by Garrett themselves.

That is not to say that it can't be done, it just costs a little bit more money.

You are probably looking at an extra $150-$200 on top of the basic turbo price.

For the second turbo, sure enough it does come with a .63 exhaust A/R but this doesn't mean it is still rated at 500 hp. It does, however, mean that you will run out of puff at around 5500 rpm. Quick off the line you will be though.

It all comes down to what horsepower you want and when you want it.....anything can be done.

Dan

FYI

A couple of links for you

http://horsepowerinabox.com/HPIAB2/prod296.htm

this second link is of a GT30 500hp jobby which can be bought with a .63 turbine housing

http://horsepowerinabox.com/HPIAB2/prod18.htm

[The Dan]

hey mate, very interested in getting a turbo of you, just need some advice first

How much horsepower/kilowatts do you want? =210rwkw  

What are you using the car for? = Street

When do you want boost roughly? = 2200/2500

Do you want power early or late in the rev range = early

What Mods you engine has or is going to have including computers or exhaust etc = 3' turbo back, pod+cai, am organising powerfc, FMIC and turbo(this is where you come in)

Obviously, what car? = R32 Gtst

Intercooled? and is it large, small, medium = will be med

Still running AFM or upgraded or no longer there = stock

Custom exhaust manifold or standard? (custom exhaust manifolds give you more options) = standard

External wastegate or internal(limited to virtually 450hp)?

It seems like people are recommending this 2530 for this setup correct ?

i know 210rwkw isnt huge, but its all i feel i really need.  I was planning on high-flow but it seems like for a bit extra i can give myself much more potential in the future perhaps.. ??

The 25/30 will get you there but you could get away with a beefed up highflow and still pi55 it in. Beefed up highflow will cost you around $1200-$1300 including larger shaft and 360 degree thrust bearing. A 25/30 will set you back about $1700 and then you will need to add another $400 for fitting it, maybe a bit less.

[The Dan]

Can you please advise your comments on the following as I have just through the process myself of sourcing a turbo and the feed back I've got:

GT35/40r ar0.70 and ar1.06 can be sourced with an internal wastegate rated 700hp

with ceramic ball bearings

RB25 HiFlow with the right internals is capable of 550hp  

The hiflow is meant to come on boost quicker with a good mid range torque, but the GT would have the legs in the top end.  

I'm being told the Hiflow has a better durability in case of backfire, better torque range for circuit racing.

The Hiflow will cost me $1,750 because of the rated internals ie bigger shaft than the GT, wheels and bearings, however unable to get the specs (all top secret stuff)

What is the cost of the GT35/40R?

Can you please advise the spec on the hi flow equipment used?

- shaft size and brand

- Wheel brand

- finished AR compressor and turbine

- type of bearings

- timing (I assume it exchange)

Can you tell me who gave you the info on the 35/40 rated at 700hp internally gated?

Also, dunno about a highflow stepping up to 550hp. Is possible but I know for a fact that the GT is more durable. Boost stays up there once you get it and you will have more legs like you said. For track stuff, the highflow will definately have better power curve to get you out of corners faster but I don't know how much punishment it will handle. Constantly on boost like that would kill it very quickly. You MUST have an oil cooler fitted if you want to run a highflow with that hp figure and on a track/circuit.

[Syphon]

Dan

appreciate the feedback, top work.

seeing its an RB30, the motor rarely sees over 5500rpm anyways, 5000rpm is generally the limit with the cam and std head.

I'm just after something that has a killer kick from 3000rpm to 5-5500rpm.

Sounds like alot of stuffing around and more bling bling. Might just go with a t3/t4 combination that suits the power im after. Did you get my PM? If so could you please get back to me with a price.

Thanks

[pentae]

My best buddy is looking for a turbo specialist as his 2jz does not seem to be spooling up the second turbo. (Sounds like crap, car stops pulling).. Its probably blown.

PM Me where he takes it to...

[The Dan]

Dan  

appreciate the feedback, top work.

seeing its an RB30, the motor rarely sees over 5500rpm anyways, 5000rpm is generally the limit with the cam and std head.  

I'm just after something that has a killer kick from 3000rpm to 5-5500rpm.

Sounds like alot of stuffing around and more bling bling.  Might just go with a t3/t4 combination that suits the power im after.  Did you get my PM?  If so could you please get back to me with a price.

Thanks

My email is [email protected] if you need to contact me

Highflow would be a good option for you as it would bolt straight back on and can be made very strong and reliable. Will also give you a better torque curve in your mid range. boost should come on strong and hold through 5500 I would think.

would you be removing the turbo or not?

[Syphon]

Yeh I would remove the turbo and freight to where ever it needs to go.

Let me know, sorry man I know your busy yourself and your making nothing out of this but if you can help me out in the next week, I'll fix you up with something, hopefully you like bourbon

[The Dan]

I can pick it up and drop it off if you like. Is the turbo on there the standard one at the moment?

If so I'll get a price tomorrow on the beefy upgraded highflow. If all is good I will get the ball rolling in the next couple of days.

The turn around shouldn't be any more than 4 days but could take 5. He requests that all of ihs rebuilds be VSR balanced so that they are perfect and to do this he needs to send it to be balanced by his sister company in Perth. He said he will not warranty his work unless that is done. That is why it takes that long. Is this ok?

I'm not completely sure of the specs of the turbine and compressor wheels or shaft sizes/brands but I'm sure he will know when I ask him tomorrow.

I'm not sure how to work out the payment thing as I don't have a business name. I can, however, give you a receipt for it and maintain warranty for the item.

90% of turbo failures occur due to oil contamination and/or starvation so make sure you have clean oil and that the supply line is also clean. This will ensure a healthy life for the turbo.

[Syphon]

If your able to pick it up that would be mad. I live on the gold coast though..?

Yerp the turbo is standard everything. It's currently still on the car but i could most likely rip it off this weekend.

Specs on the highflow would be excellent, definately would like to know what his plans would be, and how much the total price will come to.

4-5 days turnaround is fine.

How well does he know you? Would he let the turbo go out the door and you drop him cash the next day? I am happy to pay cash for the job

And just for interest sake, how long a warranty will it have.

Cheers dan appreciate the help out. I am moving house tomorrow, if you need to get hold of me, give me a call on the number i sent you in PM. Worst case i should be back on the net saturday.

[stealth]

Can you tell me who gave you the info on the 35/40 rated at 700hp internally gated?

Also, dunno about a highflow stepping up to 550hp. Is possible but I know for a fact that the GT is more durable. Boost stays up there once you get it and you will have more legs like you said. For track stuff, the highflow will definately have better power curve to get you out of corners faster but I don't know how much punishment it will handle. Constantly on boost like that would kill it very quickly. You MUST have an oil cooler fitted if you want to run a highflow with that hp figure and on a track/circuit.

Thanks for the reply...your doing a fine job getting back to everyone.

700hp is stated on the "horsepowerinabox" GT series BB turbo chart for the GT35/40.

The suppliers keep telling me and as well as various tuning shops in Bris, that the hiflow is rated at 550hp BUT no one can give me the data.

Can I get the spec used for the $1200 hiflow unit you refer to in the thread?

I have got an oil cooler installed.

My thought was that the GT35/40 internally gated would be too laggy compared to the hi flow for the circuit but great match for the drags.

Cheers

David

[The Dan]

Ok, just got off the phone with him 5 seconds ago.

The VL highflow he said will handle the 550 hp but oil cooler is a must if you are running the higher boost and you must have the 360 thrust. He uses a 2 inch 100 thou comp wheel and retains the standard size turbine so that you don't suffer any lag. He crops the turbine wheel 5 thou which moves your power range into the mid-high area as opposed to the mid provided by the standard unit.

He said there is no need to go a T4 shaft (bigger one) as the standard spec one is easily able to handle it and using the larger shaft makes it laggier.

He said that he has supplied 3 turbo's to VL street racers with these exact specs and they have been absolutely wrapped with them. They have said that boost comes on strong at 3000 and holds through 6000. The standard highflow is about $1200 but with the 360 degree it is a couple hundred more. The bearing itself is a few hundred dollars apparently.

5 day turn around at worst.

[The Dan]

Don't expect any great prices on the highflows as there is literally no money in it. I am finding it difficult to give a competetive price on a highflow and keep enough to put fuel in my car to pick up and drop off. The highflow on the RB30 turbo will cost $1600 including all the specs above and the 360 degree thrust. Without the 360 it's only about $1300. New actuators are $150-$180.

Like I said, there is no money in it but I will do my best to save a hundred or two for you. I can definately still get better prices on the GT range. The difference between RRP and my price is still pretty good so hopefully when these 35R's come in I can sell a couple.

[choyda]

Hey mate, how much for a Garrett GT28 and Garrett GT28RS with all oil lines etc for fittment to an R34 GTT? Which would u recommend? I'm specifically after better accelaration (0-100).

[The Dan]

Hey mate, how much for a Garrett GT28 and Garrett GT28RS with all oil lines etc for fittment to an R34 GTT? Which would u recommend? I'm specifically after better accelaration (0-100).

GT28 rated at 280 hp avail in only 0.64 a/r $1400

GT28RS rated at 350 hp avail in 0.64 or 0.86 a/r $1750

These prices are not inclusive of oil lines etc. but I am pretty sure they bolt straight on with very very minor mods. Exhaust manifold and dump flanges are both T25 so they suit yours. The water lines should be the same and should go straight on and so should the oil supply line but of that I am not 100% so I'll have to check it out.

Good 0-100 will only come in the 0.64 a/r really.

GT28's on the shelf

GT28RS's are on order and unknown arrival.

What is the standard turbo for the 34?

[choyda]

GT28 rated at 280 hp avail in only 0.64 a/r $1400

GT28RS rated at 350 hp avail in 0.64 or 0.86 a/r $1750

 

These prices are not inclusive of oil lines etc. but I am pretty sure they bolt straight on with very very minor mods. Exhaust manifold and dump flanges are both T25 so they suit yours. The water lines should be the same and should go straight on and so should the oil supply line but of that I am not 100% so I'll have to check it out.

 

Good 0-100 will only come in the 0.64 a/r really.

 

GT28's on the shelf

GT28RS's are on order and unknown arrival.

 

What is the standard turbo for the 34?

Standard I believe is a T28 with nylon compressor wheel and ceramic exhaust wheel. Dont know much else except its supposed to be the same as an R33 GTST Series 2.

Oh BTW, whats the price for the HKS GT2835 and did those above prices include all of the hoses and kit to fit?

[The Dan]

Oh BTW, whats the price for the HKS GT2835 and did those above prices include all of the hoses and kit to fit?

I don't do HKS because Garrett supply HKS with their cartridges. This means that you can get a Garrett to the same specs for half the price.

I believe I already answered the second question.

I'll get you a price on the Garrett equivalent in the 2835 but won't be til Monday.

[The Dan]

I can get the universal adaptor kits supplied by Garrett. Whether or not this suits you, I don't know. But I will try to find out if the GT28 needs modification to fit and how much if any.

[benm]

Maybe it would be a good idea to edit your first post of this thread with the price for each turbo as you get the price so that people don't have to read every single post/page looking to see if a price has already been quoted ?

[The Dan]

Good idea. I will tend to it almost immediately.