Whats your opinion on the OS Giken Twin plate clutch?

[Amadeo]

I have one of these up for sale on the FOR SALE section as I have been told that they are really hard to drive if you have not driven manual before, but I've also been told that they are also top of the line clutches. Now i don't know whether i should leave it in the for sale section or whether i should keep it for personal use in the future? Whats your suggestions? I have not driven manual and have been told to start off with a standard heavy duty clutch. Do you think i could learn manual on the OS twin plate clutch? I drive daily by the way, heard it could be a bitch through traffic.

So from the aforementioned, what's your opinion on this clutch?

Cheerios

[Kaido_RR]

It would be a bitch if ur not uses to manual as its a twin plate, but i would keep it as OS Giken is a good brand and the clutch would be awsome

[krush]

for those that dont know (such as myself ), what makes them such a hassel to drive? is there a very short space between on/off as you press/depress the clutch? or more so difficult as it makes the pedal stiff and hard to press down on straining your leg?

i dont understand? :S

s.

[Kaido_RR]

i am not 100% sure as i have never own a twin or tripple plate clutch, but at the moment i have a brass button clutch (heavy duty styles) the petal is hard etc and if not taken off ride the car shakes like crazy.

anwayz my understanding is that a twin would be hard pedal and yes hurt ur legs

[The_Paladin]

the petal is hard?? sounds dainty...........

[Lepperfish]

i am not 100% sure as i have never own a twin or tripple plate clutch, but at the moment i have a brass button clutch (heavy duty styles) the petal is hard etc and if not taken off ride the car shakes like crazy.

anwayz my understanding is that a twin would be hard pedal and yes hurt ur legs

Button clutches are either on or off, if you ride a button clutch the car will shake/shudder causing damage to the clutch.

Basically you have to spin the wheels on every take off to get a smooth take off.

I had a 5 button heavy duty clutch and I wore it out in about 6 months from improper use. :Bang:

[Amaru]

If you have never driven a manual car before, the twin plate will be a bit hard to get used to, especially in daily driving.

I dont know first hand how the OS clutches are, but I have a HKS twin plate in mine and its not tooo bad, but it did take alot of getting used to. The pedal is extremely light, it just engages really harshly and if you dont have the revs up it will stall.

Id hang on to it, they are meant to be really good clutches, you just need to get used to it.

[ferni]

OS clutches are meant to be one of the better twin plates.... the HKS Twin plates are a pig to drive compared toe the OS ones.

It will be hard to drive compared to a stock clutch because it will be more on/off, you can still slip it. Its up to you, what kind of power will you be running in the near future?

If your only going to be running 150rwkw for a year or two, then its a bit of overkill/waste and you'd be better off selling it and buying something cheaper/easier to drive..

if your going to be running 300rwkw in the near future then keep it, it will come in good use and you'll learn how to drive it soon enough.

[someonestolecc]

If you ain't a spastic and respect the clutch you won't lurch forward into the car a metre ahead of you in peak hour.

But the thing - you'll need to drive it with just another thing to keep in mind.

Good luck.

[Amadeo]

Thanks for your advice guys, well i dont plan to aim for the 250kw+ untill probably another year. As for now I just have an FMIC, full exhaust, bleed valve (running at 12psi) and pod and im getting a power fc soon so basically from what you guys have told me i don't think i will be needing this clutch. I'm also scared about ramming the car in front of me hehehehe

So I guess i'll leave it up for sale.

Thanks alot guys.

One more question though, would this clutch enable my car to pull harder as opposed to say a standard heavy duty or brass button clutch in a straight line race?

[someonestolecc]

The short (and technically correct) answer to that is no.

........ however, if you are able to use it to shift quicker than there is a case that could be argued that the resulting quicker gear shifts meant you could go faster. Also if you're pulling enough power to make the stock clutch slip when you're taking off then there's also a case to be made that this clutch would help you get off the line quicker.

The first one is a flimsy case though, I think the different between organic/brass/double plate with a good driver behind it isn't much if any what-so-ever.

On the other hand I know I can clutch quicker in my flatmate's r32 with his organic than I can with my unknown clutch in my cefiro.

The second case I don't think will pose you too much problems as I think a generic type "heavy duty" will be able to take 200rwkw easily off the line so long as you're not dumping it really really hard, and if you do dump it that hard you're going to wheelspin anyway so.. ...

Why don't you just keep it till you get your car, drive it around for a while and see how you go? You can always sell it later it's not like the clutch is wearing down if it's sittin in your garage.

[FATGTS-R]

You could also keep it for a while untill you have sorted manual driving with a more user friendly clutch and then get along to a cruise in your state and get somebody to let you have a spin around a car park with a twin plate and decide if its for you or not.

Another side effect of some twin plates if they dont have dampers (does the OS?) is the loud rattle they make when the pedal is depressed. I have a twin and I cant stand the rattling.

[Boof]

Keep the twin plate!! Puck/brass button clutches they are all cops to drive, at least with a twin plate there is a little bit of give, i have an OS Giken twin plate in my car and its sensational, i wouldn't go back to a single ever!! Conversly i can jump into my mates R33 which has a Nismo twin plate in it and drive it like i own it, the clutch's are that easy to use!!

Like has been said, keep the twin plate, drive the car with what ever clutch is in there now (stock im assuming), learn how to drive a manual, then when the standard clutch starts slipping put the twin plate in there!!

[R33_Cam]

my 33 had a brass button in it and i didnt really like it, lots of shuddering, my 34 has a OS giken twin plate, and i find it better and easier than the brass button, took a little bit of getting used to but once i did it was fine, as someone else said they are fairly light (lighter than brass button) but just engage like instantly, and if u dont have the revs up it will stall, but all in all they are good, and id keep it if i were you

[CONAN]

sell it

your a noob

[Keegs]

sell it, start with a stock heavy duty, you dont need a twin plate at this stage anyway....although if you did want to use it (and it would be overkill) it wouldnt be as hard to use as you are probably thinking. You could get use to it....just means you'll either stall or spin the wheels alot. IMO though i stick to saying sell it, you dont need it for its purpose and it will only cause extra problems.

[confuzion]

i have a OS giken triple plate and it is quite... direct. It is quite on/off but there is a tiny bit of slip there.

Im used to it but it failed pit inspection yesterday so will need to think of a solution. I might just take it to another one. The clutch is great when driving spiritedly, but during peak traffic etc if its your daily, its not good at all.

[Mase]

I had one in my rb20det. It was a single plate brass button OS Geiken with a OS Geiken Lightened flywheel as well. Awesome clutch, i used it for a daily driver and it worked your left leg but after a month of use it's nothing. They are a great clutch and i replaced mine with a heavy duty one i got for free, now im about to rebuild the OS Geiken one and will be throwing it back in soon.

[Leewah]

I've gone through my fair share of clutches and the OS twin was one of the best I've used. Mine wore out pretty quickly though coz I used it at 3 different drag sessions with around the 400+rwkw mark and the clutch couldn't handle the slipping off the line to launch the car. The simple problem with it for me was that it heated up too quickly and began slipping.

On the street, it was awesome to use. Plenty of give and not like the HKS twins with the on/off feeling. The OS would slip nicely into gear off the line everytime.

As a new manual driver, my suggestion is to stick to the heavy duty single plate and learn to drive that first. Once you have that worked out, the twin is a natural progession. The procedure is the same, it's just that the clutch is heavier. If you don't intend on having more than 250+ rwkw for some time (12 months+), sell it now and get another one later.

Oh, and BTW, I love the rattling sound!! I'd take that noise over the BOV whooshing crud anyday.

[Boof]

Its all about the rattles