Link Engine Management

[IMACUL8]

Spooks

Yes thats true for most standard ecu - wrx is no different.

Just with the link even when tuned well - it will still run alittle rich - its like a built in insurance policy with the link.

you'll see if you gt a link ;0>

[teejay]

but dan, link is better then a few of the other choices on the market for that sort of money

*howls*

if your budget is around this sort of mark, go link, it seems like it does a good job

[IMACUL8]

Tom

Thats what I said - for about 800/900 bucks seand hand its OK....

BUT

Better off savig the extra coin and getting a Great ecu off the bat.

[JH32]

Spooks - for more info look on www.skylinesdownunder.com

a lot of the NZ guys use LINK ecus

[Spook's_Skyline]

ta

will do!

[R31Nismoid]

Ok, if your going to make a bold statement like that, you need to suggest/list some factual information here.

ok. A few important things for me are

1) A good tuner... which leads into 2...

2) A good tuner that wont charge you an arm and a leg

and for one thing, in Vic that is very hard to find when compared to a PFC or a Wolf.

I dare say that applies to most other states in this fine country

i NEVER had this issue with my LINK when it was tuned properly.

One thing that rings true though is that my car chews through fuel, and runs extremely rich.

You've even said it runs hell rich.

i wouldnt call that a good tune. A good tune wont ever run lean BTW

also.. Does the link use the knock sensor input???

[MSRB26]

I am currently running a Link Plus in my car and i am very happy with it. I have also had a Power FC and if i had to choose between the two i would choose the Link Plus anyday of the week. I previously had too many problems with AFM's etc and decided to change to Link and haven't looked back the only ECU i would replace it with would be an Autronic or Motec but obviously they are much more expensive.

[Zombie]

Does the link use the knock sensor input???

Yes

[IMACUL8]

Anyone who has doubts - please look at the link a pasted on page 1 and look at the lack of load points, lack of fuctionality, etc the link has compared to a better ecu.

Yes the fact that the link doesnt use the AFM is great - and as i said my Link was OK - but just look at the simple facts and you'll see that its lacking badly.

Dan

[Jordan]

Does the Link (and all the other ECU's that suffer poor fuel economy) have Closed loop running?

It was my understanding that ECU's that dont do this arnt legal as they dont comply with the ADR's. On the back of the Microtech LT1200(?) it says in small print "For racing use only" because of this.

[Sydneykid]

OH dear, another "XXXX ecu versus Power FC" thread......

This is how I see it.....

a lot of the NZ guys use LINK ecus

That's because they are made in NZ

I previously had too many problems with AFM's etc and decided to change to Link

So you had problems with a standard Nissan part and it was the Power FC's fault. More likely yours for not servicing your AFM's properly.

At least you could easily get a replacement, wait until a MAP sensor fails and you get

AVO have no more map sensors, and they dont know when they will be getting anymore... so this is stressing me out big time.

i guess the wrx link plugin is similar to the gtslink

Ahh no, the WRX is a 4 cylinder and the GTST is a 6 cylinder.

for about 800/900 bucks seand hand its OK....

So they depreciate (loose their value) pretty quickly, I wonder why? At $1100 new, Power FC's seem to hold their value pretty well, I wonder why?

i cant expect a car with 300+rwhp to be decent on fuel.

How about 9.4 litres per hundred kilometres from Sydney to Wakfield Park and back (400 k's). And it has a lot more than 300 rwhp. That will save you the $200 price difference pretty quickly.

the car would smoothly decellaratedown in revs and speed with suck utter smoothness

You don't have to tune that with a Power FC, it comes standard in the base maps. That will save you more than the $200 difference in price in extra tuning costs.

good luck with PowerFC and it working from just being plugged in

Must be the way I plug them in, I'm up to ~15 Power FC's and not one car has failed to start first turn of the key and then be driven without issue to the dyno shop for a tune. Cars with the usual mods (exhaust, filter, boost up) drive better than standard most times. I must just be lucky, huh?

link is better then a few of the other choices on the market

I have compared a Link side by side with a Microtec, Haltec and Wolf and I can't see any demonstrable superiorities. As for Power FC, Motec, Electromotive and Autronic .....well not even close.

The bottom line, if you want your car to drive as "nice" as it did when standard and not cost an arm and leg to buy install, and tune, then there is only one choice in my opinion. The Power FC is unmatched in all those areas, it's the best all round ECU for a Skyline.

[Spook's_Skyline]

OH dear, another "XXXX ecu versus Power FC" thread......

it wasnt supposed to be

ive been told that powerfc wont work on my setup, so im investigating alternatives

was just suprised at how little information there was on links on this forum

thanks for you input anyway sydney kid

[DCIEVE]

imacul8, the link plus has all the features you claim it doesn't including temp correction.. does the power fc? runs the std knock sensor also. The ecu comparison link you posted up fails to list most of the links features...

you also fail to mention how many countless hours the holinger equipped car you mention spent on the dyno at west racing?

I agree its far from the best ecu on the market but it does a good job in mine and countless other cars and for the dollars you can't complain.

Nismoid your initial comment on the subject is laughable, shit if everyone on the forum isnt using it, it must be crap.. ? Well done

[aKTiVE]

How about 9.4 litres per hundred kilometres from Sydney to Wakfield Park and back (400 k's).  And it has a lot more than 300 rwhp.   That will save you the $200 price difference pretty quickly.

haha Douche,

Fcuk highway kilometres. I was talking CITY driving, because thats where it fcuks you the hardest.

Highway my fuel consumption is no problems.

[IMACUL8]

DCIEVE

Simple fact I was trying to make is that Motec or Autronics is a far superior ECU.

[IMACUL8]

DCIEVE

I also fogot to mention that a certain holiger equiped car spent hours being retuned at another perth wokshop.

Agreed tuning is the key.

But more load points (both ignition and fuel) allows for a smoother finer tune.

[Sydneykid]

haha Douche,

Fcuk highway kilometres.  I was talking CITY driving, because thats where it fcuks you the hardest.

Highway my fuel consumption is no problems.

Obviously you don't live in Sydney, there is an hour of traffic to get to the highway.

[Sydneykid]

imacul8, the link plus has all the features you claim it doesn't including temp correction.. does the power fc?  

The Power FC has tables for;

Water temp injection correction

Air temp injection correction

Air temp boost correction (if you have the Boost Control Kit)

Ignition water temp correction

Ignition air temp correction

Ignition boost correction

Battery voltage injection correction

Battery voltage ignition correction

And it flashes the standard dash warning light when;

Injector duration exceeds your selected value

Knock exceeds your selected value

Airflow exceeds your selected value

I agree its far from the best ecu on the market but it does a good job in mine and countless other cars and for the dollars you can't complain.  

I'm sorry but I CAN COMPLAIN, if I add it all up the Link actually costs more. It takes longer to install, it's not really plug and play, it doesn't have the quality support maps loaded and correction tables preset, the tuning is far more difficult....Someone has to pay for this additional labour, and that means you.

ive been told that powerfc wont work on my setup, so im investigating alternatives

If the Power FC "won't work" (whatever that means), then the Link sure as hell won't.

I have seen Power FC's running cars with 1100+ bhp, so obviously power isn't the problem. The only issue I can think of is auto transmission, and I can assure you that the Link won't run the auto much worse than the Power FC won't.

So post up what it is that you have been told the Power FC won't do. I am sure someone on here will be able to tell you how to do it.

[Spook's_Skyline]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=66093

[DCIEVE]

So post up what it is that you have been told the Power FC won't do. I am sure someone on here will be able to tell you how to do it.

put it in a car for which plug and plays arent sold?