Master Power Turbo's

[Mr.R33]

Does anyone know much about Master Power Turbo's?

How do they compare to the other brands, Garrett etc?

Good Quality?

reliable?

I am looking at buying a Master Power T04E for my R33 so If anyone knows anything about them I would really appreciate if you could let me know what you think.

Thanks

[NZM.031]

master power are from the same place as xs power turbos.

these are garret housings with cheaper chinese quality shafts, wheels, and bearings. they fall apart after a few hundred kms. a guy at tafe just built up his lowlux motor and put an xs power t3/t4 on it, after running the engine in, he gave it a boot and kablammo!!! the shaft snapped in half, lucky it didnt chew the comp wheel up.

stay away from them.

cheers

Linton

[MrMayhem]

They maybe marketed thru similar channels but the MP is a brazilian made turbo not chinese fall apart deals which as NZM said are crap

[Sydneykid]

Master Power, have been around for 25 years or so, making plain bearing, old Garrett technology turbos in Brazil. The turbos themselves seem to be made well enough, but they are far from state of the art, technology wise.

I just gotta ask, are you really considering taking a ball bearing, water cooled turbo off and replacing it with an older generation, plain bearing, non water cooled turbo?

If you do make that decision, you will have to;

Block off the water feed and return lines

Buy a compressor inlet adaptor (the diameters are different)

Have an adaptor fabricated to fit the compressor outlet to the standard intercooler inlet pipework

Have an adaptor made for the wastegate actuator

Add up the cost of parts, plus it will take at least three times as long to fit. Compare that all up cost with the cost of buying a ball bearing hi flow, which is a far superior solution technology wise and will save money in servicing over its life.

Hope that is of some help:cheers:

[Mr.R33]

Master Power, have been around for 25 years or so, making plain bearing, old Garrett technology turbos in Brazil.  The turbos themselves seem to be made well enough, but they are far from state of the art, technology wise.

I just gotta ask, are you really considering taking a ball bearing, water cooled turbo off and replacing it with an older generation, plain bearing, non water cooled turbo?

If you do make that decision, you will have to;

Block off the water feed and return lines

Buy a compressor inlet adaptor (the diameters are different)

Have an adaptor fabricated to fit the compressor outlet to the standard intercooler inlet pipework

Have an adaptor made for the wastegate actuator

Add up the cost of parts, plus it will take at least three times as long to fit.   Compare that all up cost with the cost of buying a ball bearing hi flow, which is a far superior solution technology wise and will save money in servicing over its life.

Hope that is of some help:cheers:

Yeah Thanks Sydney Kid,

I know some people that are bringing a few of the master power turbos in and the price sounded good, T04E about 1250 to 1300.

(Of course they are the ones bringing them in so they only had good things to say about them)

but by the sound of it I would be better off getting my other option, a custom made Garrett 450hp turbo for $1600

it is ball bearing and water cooled.

Or you mentioned just getting my T03 high flowed. Which would you recommend?

Thanks for your help

[Sydneykid]

Yeah Thanks Sydney Kid,  

I know some people that are bringing a few of the master power turbos in and the price sounded good, T04E about 1250 to 1300.

(Of course they are the ones bringing them in so they only had good things to say about them)

but by the sound of it I would be better off getting my other option, a custom made Garrett 450hp turbo for $1600

it is ball bearing and water cooled.

Or you mentioned just getting my T03 high flowed. Which would you recommend?

Thanks for your help

The smaller T04 sized Master Power turbos sell for ~$US650, there are a few places in the US retailing them for that. No import duty (US free trade agreement), freight and 10% GST so they are making a reasonable margin at $A1,300.

If the Garrett is configured to fit straight up then it is comparable, but I suspect it will need extra parts and some fabrication. We get 265 rwkw out of the R34GTT with a GCG ball bearing hi flow, which is pretty close to the rated 450 bhp, so it's a genuine number. Plus it makes more power EVERYWHERE than standard. There are quite a few other RB25's with similar results, so it's not a fluke engine.

I am not a fan of taking standard internal RB25's over 450 bhp, some people do it and get away with it, but plenty more have had failures. For an all round performance (drag, circuit and road), almost standard response, ease of fitting and right up to the std internals limit, I have yet to find a better solution.