N/a Turbo differences

[Restless 33]

jsut wondering if anyone can tell me the differences between the R33 N/A and the Turbo. aiside from the fact one has a turbo and intercooler etc to run the turbo. do they have same brake discs, etc. also inside are they exactly the same essentially. panels and everything outside is the same aswell?

cheers. Mark

[DaGr81]

well stronger internals, stronger gear box, lower compression clutch plate also superior, also the brakes are alot better. i dont think the interior would be much different. but apart from all that

the GT badges are red and white for turbo and green and white for non turbo

[CC]

I would have thought they use all the same components for both turbs and non turbs....can anyone confirm? I know my N/A (GTS-4) has ABS brakes

[DaGr81]

nahh , its gonna have a stronger gear box, to handle the power, i think the pistons have oil squirters too, id have to say because of the turbo they would have slightly stronger internals

[Restless 33]

thanks for the imput guys. if anyone can comfirm any of this that would be great.

[Eug]

brakes definately are different... (unsure about gts4)

GTST: 4pot front, twin pot rears - with the NISSAN on the calipers.

GTS: ugly black things I dunno what they are - will let you guys know when i do the brake upgrade.

my gts has red gt badges (type-s standard)

and DaGr81 is fairly correct with the other stuff ^^^

[Ant]

Obvious one - tacho assy is different due to no boost gauge......

Yup, red/white badges for Type S NA's, blue/white for non-type S.

Front brakes have 2 pot calipers, rear is single pot for NA, I think the master cylinder is different as well due to the different pot volume. R33 GTS4 uses the same brake setup as the GTS/GTS25.

[DaGr81]

wat else is different hmmmz, the acceleration LOL, ermmz dont think theres much else different... is there?

[gatty]

mines type S and has blue/white badges

lots of topics on this - use the search mate

basically:

brakes are better on GTSt

internals are stronger on GTSt

gearbox is stronger on GTSt

better injectors on GTSt

dash is slightly different

wheel hub is 4 stud on NA and 5 stud for GTSt

different exhaust setup due to turbo on GTSt

different ECU

better stock clutch in GTSt

thats about it i think i may have missed somehting though

[bucket1577]

Non turbo has 4 wheel studs per wheel compared to 5 on the turbo standard rims on turbo are 16" and 15" on non turbo, brakes are a definite difference, just did mine but they are ABS. Final drive ratio (diff) is also different marginally and not always LSD on N/A, the gear box I'm not sure as mine has the same number on the manaufacture plate as a turbo model. Both have HiCas.

[dondesoto]

n/a injectors 270 cc/min

turbo injectors 370 cc/min

both use same head and inlet manifold

same air flow meter

[ASYLUM]

the GT badges are red and white for turbo and green and white for non turbo

hmm... mine is an NA and has red and white GT badges... also has RB25DET sticker under bonnet..... but is def NA

[Ant]

mines type S and has blue/white badges

Bah, just when I thought I'd got that one figured out.... I'll fall back to my previous theory then - red badge = sold thru Nissan red stage dealer, blue = blue stage dealer. From what a friend in Japan has told me red stage = performance stuff and blue stage = family/smaller car stuff.

[666DAN]

I've got blue badges...but my car was sold by the Prince Nissan Dealership?????

[DaGr81]

mines blue and it aint exactly a family car?

asylum all i can think of for ur car is , sum1 stole ur motor or blew the engine and needed a cheap fix rb25de or rb20e around 1500 dollars those engines

[Ant]

hmm... mine is an NA and has red and white GT badges... also has RB25DET sticker under bonnet..... but is def NA

What does it say on the VIN plate - RB25DET or RB25DE? Where is the sticker you refer to?

mines blue and it aint exactly a family car?

Err, by family car I meant they sell cars like the Maxima, Sunny, Pulsar etc as well, I guess the NA Skylines are the top of the 'family friendly' cars?

I've got blue badges...but my car was sold by the Prince Nissan Dealership?????

I'm not sure where the Prince dealership chains fit with the Blue stage/Red stage thing.

Anyway, tis just a theory....

[Eug]

it could just be a possibility that the previous owner did not like the red badges and

threw on the blue to be more realistic...

blue badges are quite cool though - very rare.

[Ant]

it could just be a possibility that the previous owner did not like the red badges and

threw on the blue to be more realistic...

blue badges are quite cool though - very rare.

Tehehe, in NZ blue badges on R33's are common as dirt, probably because there seem to be a heap of 2L GTS models around at the moment, they out-number the GTS25T's by probably 3 to 1! And GTS25's by about 100 to 1....

[666DAN]

Yeah I prefer the blue, considering my car is blue as well it's looks good

I used to get people staring at it funny though, cause I had blue badges, N/A exhaust, no gauges, yet they could hear the turbo ...the Big front mount gives it away now though.