Why is no one interested in motor sport

[djr81]

yeah, it was mid march .. then mid april .. now its changed to may 15th because of the works.

hmmm, i got some castor rods coming in soon, once i get them installed and my suspension all sorted out i might start entering then.

i work from home now so the poor car just sits in the garage all day long

whats the SES website?  

Shaun

www.speedeventseries.com

If you like you can send us a pm about the castor rods. My R32 R has some, but I am yet to take advantage. Would like to compare notes on castor/camber/toe in/tyres.

[RadiuM]

www.speedeventseries.com

If you like you can send us a pm about the castor rods.  My R32 R has some, but I am yet to take advantage.  Would like to compare notes on castor/camber/toe in/tyres.

thanks.

im not sure what to set anything at, i will most likely ask for some advice at wilkinson susp. as i still need it streetable for now.

Shaun

[gtrken]

www.speedeventseries.com

If you like you can send us a pm about the castor rods.  My R32 R has some, but I am yet to take advantage.  Would like to compare notes on castor/camber/toe in/tyres.

Caster. As much as you can wind on and not hit the front of the guards.

Camber. neg 1.5 to neg 2.5 if you don't care about inside tyre wear

Toe 1mm total toe in

Rear

Camber neg 1.5

toe 0 to 1mm total toe in

Tyres

Bridgestone RE55

For full blown track racing, add another 1 deg neg to the front.

Cheers

Ken

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I've been down to watch the SES when gtrken was competing, great fun to watch, but with the number of incidents I've seen I wouldn't be doing it in my daily driver:D

[RadiuM]

aaaand noted

quick Q. My car doesnt have adjustable camber tops but the camber can be adjusted via height also can't it? (like you see with people who dump the shit out of their cars and have a heap of camber on them)

the reason i ask is that i put in another set of coilovers (last one got a tad bent) a little while back and the camber was fine for each side previously. after whacking in the new ones i just put the heights to about the same as i was going to get it done properly later on but now the camber on the left is 1 deg different.

Shaun

[predator]

I can't see the money being the major issue, if you have a regular job. Afterall, many will spend $2000+ on a set of crappy looking chromies, or an equal amount to play playstation in their car. I don't quite understand that most of the time, especially doing it to a "performance" car. But when you're that age, it's all about partying and impressing ur mates or the girls.

I think the main problem is probably similar to QLD.. a large number of the skyline owners you see are still living at home, and only able to afford the car living off their parent's back. They're not really willing to risk it.. and they don't like / don't want to learn how to work on their own cars if something goes wrong (or are well off enough to afford garage rates everytime they blow something).

Soon as they move out of home, its back to more sedate transport, or they've moved onto other things like buying a house, or popping out kids.

[gtrken]

aaaand noted

quick Q.  My car doesnt have adjustable camber tops but the camber can be adjusted via height also can't it? (like you see with people who dump the shit out of their cars and have a heap of camber on them)

the reason i ask is that i put in another set of coilovers (last one got a tad bent) a little while back and the camber was fine for each side previously. after whacking in the new ones i just put the heights to about the same as i was going to get it done properly later on but now the camber on the left is 1 deg different.

Shaun

The camber will change slightly with ride height and the diff in camber is probably tied in with how you bent it the original coilover...

You need adjustable top arms or at the least, adjustable top arm bushes from Whiteline.

Cheers

Ken

[djr81]

I can't see the money being the major issue, if you have a regular job. Afterall, many will spend $2000+ on a set of crappy looking chromies, or an equal amount to play playstation in their car. I don't quite understand that most of the time, especially doing it to a "performance" car. But when you're that age, it's all about partying and impressing ur mates or the girls.  

I think the main problem is probably similar to QLD.. a large number of the skyline owners you see are still living at home, and only able to afford the car living off their parent's back. They're not really willing to risk it.. and they don't like / don't want to learn how to work on their own cars if something goes wrong (or are well off enough to afford garage rates everytime they blow something).  

Soon as they move out of home, its back to more sedate transport, or they've moved onto other things like buying a house, or popping out kids.

Good call. Alot of people would rather spend money on bling for their cars than get out & have a go. At the end of the day entry fees and licenses are cheaper than traffic fines & yellow stickers.

But to go back to the original point - have a look at the lap times put up for the various eastern states circuits (in the motorsport section) and compare with those for Wanneroo. Last time I looked there was only one time posted for WA...

Having entered a number of SES events I can only say that you have to do something very silly to have a large enough off to damage your car.

[RedRocket]

Having entered a number of SES events I can only say that you have to do something very silly to have a large enough off to damage your car.

Sounds like you don't have enough power...

[BoOsTeD_RB26]

Thats GOLD info on suspension specs ken *writes it all down*.

I never knew SAU had an MC team? I go down there fairly often now on some weekends just to see whats happening. Never seen you all down there. Whos in the team? How long has there actually been a team? But djr81 is correct, you don't see all that many skylines being raced. The only regular cars I see down at MC for instance are Baz's 32, some white R34 with pink mesh and not many others.... Each to their own.

Interesting....

[djr81]

Sounds like you don't have enough power...

There are two kinds of people in the world - those that think they have enough power & those who know what they are talking about. 4WD and a recent upgrade to RE55's requires alot of hp to upset the car. 300+rwhp is never enough to really upset a GT-R's handling.

Have alook at the photos in my gallery & tell me if I am trying hard enough.

More seriously - you see way more WR-X's, Silvias, even old school Escorts than Skylines out & about.

[RadiuM]

you will find most people buy cars just to look good in, they dont give a shit about motorsport and probably dont even watch it on TV.

having said that, most skyline drivers are like that.

Shaun

[GTS-t VSPEC]

The SAUWA MC team has been going since the start of this Summers series and we're booked in for the Winter series too. We have about 6 people in the team at the moment, so everyone has a chance to have a couple races per season. If your after more details about joining in the SAUWA MC team then contact Sneeza.

Cheers

Paul

Thats GOLD info on suspension specs ken *writes it all down*.

I never knew SAU had an MC team? I go down there fairly often now on some weekends just to see whats happening. Never seen you all down there. Whos in the team? How long has there actually been a team? But djr81 is correct, you don't see all that many skylines being raced. The only regular cars I see down at MC for instance are Baz's 32, some white R34 with pink mesh and not many others.... Each to their own.

Interesting....

[Denver]

Having entered a number of SES events I can only say that you have to do something very silly to have a large enough off to damage your car.

Uhmm actually, its quite easy on the hill climbs, just, speaking from experience here, the circut sprints its a little harder, but can still, and has happened..

That said, ratchet straps fix all

[PHATR32]

hey id love to do some ciruit racing, rally etc, ive always wanted to the targa tasmiania etc, but i dont have the experiance...yet....

my current aim is to get the car on the road and then ill see what happens

[djr81]

hey id love to do some ciruit racing, rally etc,  ive always wanted to the targa tasmiania etc, but i dont have the experiance...yet....

my current aim is to get the car on the road and then ill see what happens

Steve,

You don't have to enter Targa anything to get involved. There are lots of club days at circuits (ie practice only) and you will be pleasantly suprised how interested & helpful people are. All sorts of cars are around (Notable exceptions are Skylines & HSV's) some of them quite slow & quite ordinary - but that doesn't stop their owners from having a go & having some fun.

At the end of the day it is a much safer environment than out on the roads.

[morlock]

You won't have "offs" in your car unless you try to impress people and drive outside your limits or the limits of the car

[BoOsTeD_RB26]

You won't have "offs" in your car unless you try to impress people and drive outside your limits or the limits of the car

Too true.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

You won't have "offs" in your car unless you try to impress people and drive outside your limits or the limits of the car

You wouldn't be competing if you didn't push the limits of yourself and your car. I've been to alot of the SES events and see some good drivers come unstuck. Gtrken is a very good driver, won the SES, and he's had a fair share of "offs".

[Black-Beast]

these hill runs and stuff, I haven't heard of them in perth. how often do they happen. and whats the ses.

I'm heaps interested in the motorsport. I'm going down to collie for the drift day and am looking for other things that are going on.