R34GTT Vs XR6T!!!??!!

[Myth33]

Ok here is my situation I was just about to purchase a 4 Door R34 GT-T when I test drove a ford XR6T 4 Door (4.0L Turbo). Now I am Very Very confused????

I love my skylines but guys and gals let me tell you the XR6T sedan is one hell of a car (yes I know its the dark side of the force) !!

Ok now I am in a living hell, someone please help me!???!!

Firstly does anyone know which of these cars are quicker, because its a bit difficult to tell? Which one should I buy please tell me your opinion:

Here are the things I am comparing......

R34GTT VS XR6 Turbo (both tip-tronic sedans)

2.5L In-line turbo Six VS 4.0L In-line turbo Six

$30,000 VS $33,500

1998 model VS 2003 model

30,000Kms VS 40,000Kms

Weight? VS Weight?

206Kw VS 240Kw?? (not too sure on power of XR6T)

0-100kms???

Quarter mile Times????

Other tid bits include:

single CD VS 6 CD Premium Sound

Cloth Interior VS Black Leather Interior

Handling and Brakes would also be another consideration but not too sure on their limits, unfortunately you can't test drive a car the same way you would drive your own car

Opinions Please..........everyone I know the GTT is a Skyline but the XR6T felt a bit quicker? Could it be?

[Tommyk]

Off the line, the GTT would be quicker, because it weighs something like 400kg less.

If you were racing someone on a private track on a highway, then the XR6T would win.

Quarter mile times I think are pretty similar. The XR6T will FEEL quicker

[n15m0]

power to weight ratio the XR6T would probably be just ahead of the GTT...but its kinda like almost comparing apples and oranges IMO.

[Myth33]

Yeah the XR6T has a wave of torque that puts you in your seat. The GTT has that too but the XR6T feels much stronger the higher the speedo goes especially anywhere over 60Kms/h (probably the 4.0L capacity vs the 2.5L of the GTT)

I'd love to know quarter miles times to give me a good overall impression...will do some googling.....

A 98' model vs an 03' model is reallying bobbing around in my head considering it is only about $3,500 more. But I loved my 33 GTS25t so much....hmmmm.....

[Myth33]

XR6T 1664kg 0-100km/hr 6.0 Flat

vs

GTT 1480Kg 0-100km/hr 6.5 Flat

GTT 333nm@3,200RPM

vs

XR6T 450Nm of torque from 2000-4500rpm (thats more torque than a GTR I believe, that explains why I was impressed)

Yep its 240kw for the XR6T now by my calculations thats a power to weight of:

6.9kg/1Kw of power

vs 7.18kg/1kw of power for the GTT

hmmmmm...... interesting statistics just need to find acurate Quater times now...

[Firefrog]

I'd love to give you an answer, but all the XR6Ts Ive seen havent been so keen to race me Obviously the GTT has the weight advantage, and I'd assume probably better handling. I've heard of a LOT of mechanical problems with the XR6Ts, although apparantly some of this has been fixed in the new version? Might be worth checking out.

Sucks that you need the room for family, otherwise I'd say go the XR6T Ute, as I'm sure they would haul alot of arse Anyway, GTT has oodles more style

[Myth33]

Hey Firefrog hows things? Was kinda hoping you were gonna invite me out last weekend for a run in your 34 . Sorry again about not being available much over Easter, had to visit the In-laws in Gympie I am driving a 4 cylinder run about till I sought out my next ride. Give me a call if your goin for another cruise, unless something really important comes up, I'm there!! (besides its another chance to feed my 'R34 buying side of my brain' that is being tortured ATM)

Back on topic yeah I know the XR6T's do seem to have their fair share of problems thats for sure!! Being an 03 model Turbo I was trying to think of a valid reason why some would buy a car like that that new and sell it 2 years later seems strange to me?? Its actually a good looking car with good perfomrance, infact it looks like new. hmmmm more thinking required here.....

Any other opinions?

[gtrken]

XR6T = 189rwkw or 256rwhp( I think) on a dyno dynamics computer in Shootout.

We have done 6 or so of them in std form and all get around that , give or take 5rwkw or so.

Fit a Nizpro stage 2 kit which is bolt on, run it at 12psi and 400rwhp and enough torque to kill the std new clutch inside 2,000km.

Not a fan of the build quality but a long stroke 4litre engine with oodles of midrange makes for a fun ride..

Cheers

Ken

[Shell]

Being an 03 model Turbo I was trying to think of a valid reason why some would buy a car like that that new and sell it 2 years later seems strange to me??

alot of ppl get them on lease and then sell them before they depreciate too much to trade up to a newer model...it's just the way it is with falcons/commodores. i wouldn't worry that they're selling it cos there's something wrong with it.

my bf is in this exact situation...looking at getting rid of the XR6T for a GT or maybe a pursuit ute.

Back on topic yeah I know the XR6T's do seem to have their fair share of problems thats for sure!!

i know he had a few issues, one was really bad brake shudder, got it fixed, problem came back, they told him he was braking too hard blah blah...eventually got it sorted, it was all under warrenty anyway..

my opinion is go the Skyline maybe this is just a girlie point of view lol..but the XR6t just feels like a fast Falcon. It doesn't feel like a real sports car the way a skyline does when you get behind the wheel. My bf has even said the same thing when he's driven my car (and it's a totally stock r33!)..

[Firefrog]

We had to move house on the weekend, hence no cruising for me dude : Plus Im working Sat/Sun this weekend, so even if I'm out on the weekend, it will just be a little one, I'll give you an SMS and let you know though.

If its an 03 XR6 I'll assume its one of the earlier models with all the problems, which would suck, you never know how many the guys already had fixed, and how many he's just given up on. The most common one I always hear is with the manual transmission, but I've heard the auto boxes are significantly better, so you're probably alright there.

I'd have to agree the Skyline would probably have the sportier feel though

[DivHunter]

http://fordforums.com.au/forumdisplay.php?f=33

That should give you an idea, some running 11.5s without the ECU edit Good cars, strong engines and being 4L can pump a large turbo with little to no lag. In many cases the XR6T is faster than the Typhoon (even when it doesn't blow the clutch ).

[=premo=]

comon people its a ford, and its an R34 FOURDOOR!!!

power to weight, spend the extra $3500 on more power.

6CD, ever heard of MP3

450Nm of torque.... hmmm fair enuf, but fellas, sexy skyline vs bogan ford (no offence)

fourdoor... i would kill to have an R34 fourdoor. could you imagin how happy you would be as a kid being dropped off to skewl in a four door skyline :wassup: (asuming you need a sedan for that reason).

stuff the ford, its just another comman car, nuttin we havnt all seen before.

think about it!!

just my opinion

[Abo Bob]

I ran a stock XR6T tiptronic when mine was stock and won. Also R34 would crap all over the ford stock for stock handling wise.

[PHATR32]

i luv the r34 but the xr6t will defently be the way to go. these cars respond awseomely to upgrades, but go for a series 2 6 speed. you wont regret it.

steve

[sdm33]

Warren Luff does a track comparison of 34 v XR6T in a dvd. I think it is serious performance 7. Maybe that will help you, I know he bagged the 34 autos shifting, I think in the end they picked the XR6.

[rukus]

just out of interest, would a stock coupe r34 be quicker than a stock XR6T?

[NJR 34GTT]

I have a friend who bought an Xr6-T around the same time I bought my r34 so we did a bit of a comparison and let each other drive both cars.

The xr6-t surprised me quite a bit with the linear acceleration and the amount of go it had. It wasn't as fast as my GT-T but thats probably because mine is modified. Stock v stock I'm sure the xr6-t would win. The steering is pretty vague and I found it hard to determine what the rear end of the car was doing whilst the GT-T has very point to point steering and always lets you know exactly what was going on. The seating position of the xr6-t is also very uninvolving and should be due to the family car nature.

Basically when it comes down to it, the cars have similar performance but one is a touring sports car and one is a family car with lots of power. It's really your decision which way to go.

[rukus]

the GTT im looking to get looks similar to yours, NJR 34GTT

[JCMarshall_Law]

It fairly obvious that the XR6T will be faster in a straight line.

The XR6T has an excellent engine in my opinion that will respond VERY well to power upgrades (so does the GTT). Your prolly never going to get the same power from the RB25DET as you would from the XR6T (for the same money spent) - there is 1.5 extra liters in the XR6T!

But Overall I think the skyline is a better designed and built car, (they are in different price brackets new so you cant really compare them),

I know the brakes are a bit of a problem, I have a mate with a XR6T, at a recent track day he had heaps of problems, pulling up the car, At the end of the day the car got towed because the disks had warped so badly. Having said that, he still thinks it is a good car and does not regret buying it.

[EVL032]

they r both slow buy an R32

my dad Xr6T and i destroy both of the i got torque not the xr6t