R34GTT Vs XR6T!!!??!!

[Munna]

GTT for me. Sure the ford has a good engine but thier a big, heavy, and the interior build quality is terrible.

If you want a roomy powerful faimily car go the ford. If you want a sports car with four door sports car go the GTT.

[ferni]

I think this says it all

[RyanN]

yep, those photos seem to turn up all over the place. Go the r34, awesome car, looks better, better technology compared to most western cars and a better investment since fords and most local cars lose there value alot quicker than imports. Only problem is parts and service, however japanese cars don't break down as much as the fords or holdens. Power can't really be compared since its 2.5ltr turbo vs a 4ltr turbo - the nissian is still just as fast though.

[Abo Bob]

Poo. teh skyline is teh winnah!!!!!111111!!1

[PHATR32]

that guy's a retard

[DAN00H]

XR6T would absolutly hose an R34GTT 4door stock! abo bob, is your car stock or modded? did the ford guy really nail it?

I've driven the series 2 and it is awesome for a local car I took it down to batemans bay and back from Canberra (via the clyde) and found it stuck to the road exceptionally for a 'big heavy car' . my only complant - the stock seats, they need to be changed to something more akin to GTR seats i.e Recaros or the like.

stopped, turned and performed very well + it was a heap of fun. I found it gave great driver feedback, but I felt I was not sitting in it, rather on it - again, the seat...

Have a look at the power they are pulling from these monsters with a modest amount of cash!

I'd have one, but I would opt for the upspec brakes and get recaros in the front.

Buy the ford

[Myth33]

XR6T would absolutly hose an R34GTT 4door stock!

I agree with this DANOOH. The XR6T has better power to weight ratio. I would imagine that the 4.0L engine would allow the car to keep pulling very hard at high speed too.

Thanks for the comments everyone. I have a bit more to add to this thread now, but my descision is still not made.

I haven't compared both back to back but I have driven both now and power aside, all I can say is the Skyline looks and feels much better on the road in every aspect. The R34 GTT 4 door leaves an impression on you that it is a true "hi-performance sports car" where as the XR6T looks and feels like a "Family Sedan with stiffer suspension".

Its funny because I was finding it hard to put my finger on the differences in these cars. But it is so true what I have siad above, when you sit in the XR6T it feels like any other post 97-98 Aussie sedan, despite the obvious effort put into making the interior feel sporty. Just driving the XR6T around in stop and go traffic (believe it or not) you can really feel the weight (1664Kg) that the engine is lugging around although under hard acceleration the falcon sheds this weight like it was never there in the first place. You are then quickly reminded of the cars weight when you come to brake, its not like the standard brakes can't cope they just feel like in an extreme situation they might let you down.

The R34 GTT is no GTR but its a "real drivers car" in every sense of the words. It feels like it could out corner and out brake the XR6T in ANY situation. Yep there really is that much difference. What keeps one such as myself thinking about the XR6T is the sheer grunt the engine has and when you plant the foot the push in the back of your seat is very, very strong!

One other point is the number of GTTs getting around ATM. Today I spotted 4 XR6Ts on the way into the city, another 3 or so XR6 or XR6Ts when I was in the city. Then I saw another 4 or 5 of them on my way home. They are quite common now. On the other hand I saw no GTT's today, although I am sure they are around they are nowhere near as common.

[Abo Bob]

XR6T would absolutly hose an R34GTT 4door stock! abo bob, is your car stock or modded? did the ford guy really nail it?

I've driven the series 2 and it is awesome for a local car I took it down to batemans bay and back from Canberra (via the clyde) and found it stuck to the road exceptionally for a 'big heavy car' . my only complant - the stock seats, they need to be changed to something more akin to GTR seats i.e Recaros or the like.

stopped, turned and performed very well + it was a heap of fun. I found it gave great driver feedback, but I felt I was not sitting in it, rather on it - again, the seat...

Have a look at the power they are pulling from these monsters with a modest amount of cash!

I'd have one, but I would opt for the upspec brakes and get recaros in the front.

Buy the ford

My car was stock at the time but not anymore. He definitely nailed it but we only went up to about 100 km/h. I'm not saying there was much in it.

At the next stop he wound his window down and accused me of having mods done. I said I guessed it was all power to weight.

I notice 16xx kgs quoted above, I thought they were more like 18xx but anyway.

Stock GTT is a little bit asthmatic in the last 500 rpm before redline but I'm not sure about the fords.

One thing I noticed when my car was stock was that it seemed that I beat everyone by having an engine happy to rev out to 7000rpm. What's the fords redline?

[Gerardrh34]

My opinion is that i would go the r34 probably more for the fact that they are more rare and i think they look more aggressive and sportier..

Basically the xr6t seems more like a family car that been injected with some roids... however i reckon ford has finally made a falcon that looks a hell of a lot more impressive than previous falcons!! cause i do think the xr6t look alright... but no way as good as the 34.

I dont think you would regret buying either one, so like they say... follow your heart.... (and get the r34)

hehe

[Myth33]

What's the fords redline?

On the dash it has no Redline! That was one of the wierd things I asked the dealer about, but I have since confrimed that it is normal. Regardless the XR6T starts to cut around the late 5,000 rpm mark but peak torque of 450nm is made at latest by 4,000 rpm.

so like they say... follow your heart.... (and get the r34)

yeah I am really like a pendullum at the moment!! At times the 34 really feels like the only choice (being a skyline lover through and through....) its just the falcon is hard to ignore with the specifications.

[r33skylinegtst]

There's a lot of Falcons on the road, be they XR6, XR6T or XR8 so you're not really going to stand out. Not that that will or should influence your opinion, but still. I'd take the R34, it'd probably give you better fuel economy and stuff as well.

[oscar32]

The XR6T is a family car trying to be a sports car.

The R34 GT-T 4 door is a sports car that fits the family :burnout:

I have a mate with an XR6T ute, goes great. Been in the shop a lot though for a new car. He had front rotors, a gearbox bearing and a problem with the tailgate closing..

[zymotic]

do you want a car with high build quality, unique/excellent looks, high reliability, a car that integrates the driver with nice feedback OR

do you want a car that looks a little nicer than a standard falcon, has poor reliability (Mk1's), is not so integrated from a drivers perspective, but goes very fast in a straight line with more potential... in a straight line

"real drivers car" is why i went GTT

[32vspecII]

im getting an xr6t , upgrading from a r33 4door line , ive looked extensively at the 34s .

if you want to stand out get a 34 , if you want stealth get the xr6t . If you never want to be pulled over and get defected get a t .

if you want cheap insurance and parts get the t .

if you want to drift get the 34 . if you want drag get the t . if handling is your thing get the 34 , if massive power is it then get the t .

if you want a practical sedan get the t , if you want a sports car thats a bit more handy than a normal coupe get the 34

they are 1730kg in auto form , about 20-30 less in manual . they actually have fairly advanced suspension setups and handle well for a car of that size and weight but sooner or later that weight does have an impact .

sitting on the xr6t forums a fair bit theres actually not that much that goes wrong with them in the main part . the main issue is the T5 gearbox in the series I , it will never handle 450nm of tourqe well and will die with small upgrades . the auto is a better pick and can be built to handle the output of a 350rwkw upgrade for about 3k . The T56 in the series II is much better but a moded t will need a mega clutch and some strengthening still you could have got a cheaper auto and put that money strait into the gearbox . Budget about 6.5-8k for a stengthened 6 speed if you get a manual 5 speed and want to go modding . im sure it would be a lovely car though .

personally , im looking for a practical car for a growing family that I can have fun with , primarily drag . for about 8-10k there are kits to produce 350rwkw and run 12s on street tyres . looking at the HPI r34 they spent alot more than 10k to get that to run 12s .

[Myth33]

do you want a car with high build quality, unique/excellent looks, high reliability, a car that integrates the driver with nice feedback OR

All positives here ...... hmmm......thinking answer = Yes

do you want a car that looks a little nicer than a standard falcon, has poor reliability (Mk1's), is not so integrated from a drivers perspective, but goes very fast in a straight line with more potential... in a straight line

Negatives.......Positives..........and everything in between hmmm answer = No

Skyline is looking up

BTW does anyone know if an 03 XR6T is a Mk1 or series 1?

[Myth33]

Sorry Arkon, you must have written that post super quick while I was stuffing around with my last post, because I didn't see it a minute ago? Thanks for the info mate, and yeah I have registered as a user on fordXR6Tubro.com just to use the search feature to do my research.

I agree with everything you have said basically just a couple of questions:

Just curious though have you taken a stock GTT 4 door tip-tronic for a test drive? Also do you know exact differences in Quarter mile times betwenn these cars?

1730kg in auto form

are you sure? can you point me too a reliable source on this becuase I have a spec sheet that I downloaded that said 1664kg and that was in an Auto 2003 model.

[Buddy Club R33]

Who could say no to those R34 tail lights?

Ford's and Holden's do nothing for me in terms of looks.

In most cases I can't distinguish Fords from one another. XR6, XR6T, XR8 all look the same but for the badging.

Go the Skyline!

[32vspecII]

drive says 1,694kg , carpoint says 1690kg for manual series II . most of the forums seem to talk about 1700kg , so yea about 1730ish for auto the auto being 30kg heavier roughly . ford have no weight listed on their website which is strange . series I is a little lighter I think , dont know about 80kg , 1664 would sound more like a manual sI .

i have driven 1 r34 triptronic sedan , it was a very nice car . dont get me wrong I love the line and its a great car , if you want a thrashy sports car but need 4 doors now and then get the 34 . but if you want a practical sedan then the t is much better . and if you want BIG power then defietly get the T . If you want something to just do a exhaust and intercooler and a bit of boost then stick with the 34 . The T responds to those basic mods just as well but it excells in making big power in the realms that would start to get very expensive with an rb25 and to me thats when the positives start to outweight the negetives like big weight and size and plainer exterior .

I havent seen any oficial 1/4s but some owners have said 14 flats for their stock auto t's . No idea on the r34 , given the worse power to weight id expect slightly slower over the 1/4 but maybe quicker to 100km given the weight difference .

[32vspecII]

Who could say no to those R34 tail lights?

Ford's and Holden's do nothing for me in terms of looks.  

In most cases I can't distinguish Fords from one another.  XR6, XR6T, XR8 all look the same but for the badging.  

Go the Skyline!

thats the idea ! Im ripping the turbo badge off , ill even be able to park that thing in the street !

with 2 kid seats in the back no cop will ever look twice . who would expect the family falcon actually ran 12s and did 350rwkw

make sure you get a blueprint blue , cause then youve got the most common colour too .

[Myth33]

Who could say no to those R34 tail lights?

I'm finding it hard to fight, believe me.

drive says 1,694kg , carpoint says 1690kg for manual series II . most of the forums seem to talk about 1700kg , so yea about 1730ish for auto the auto being 30kg heavier roughly . ford have no weight listed on their website which is strange . series I is a little lighter I think , dont know about 80kg , 1664 would sound more like a manual sI .

So it sounds like it is at least as heavy as I thought, but maybe heavier, which brings the power to weight ratios even closer together....interesting..