Appealing a licence suspension

[Baz]

....And yes i have been here before 2500 in fines and 3 years without a license down to 500 in fines and 6 months with no license.

Its a fair cop.

3 Years?! Thats a really long suspension. Errr.... mind if I ask what you actually did to get delt out intially such a large suspension period? That is a seriously long time.

[Guest Mashrock]

um............running a red light is not 'petty shit' people get killed doing that.  tough shit if some kid went to cross the road.  if you think that's petty i sure hope that you dont get your licence back for a long time.  i feel i speak on behalf of a lot of sensible drivers here on SAU.

haha clearly you dont even know the situation.

[Guest Mashrock]

most of this was even before i drove the skyline at all.

actually i have not got one single fine or being pulled over at all in my skyline.

[xRHETTx]

haha clearly you dont even know the situation.

There is no situation that makes it ok or "less bad" to run a red light, its one of the worst things you can do when driving a car. Its dangerous. People who run red lights kill innocent people. Full stop.

I'm not saying that i know ur situation but i think you should take responsibility for your own actions and cop it. Maybe you shouldn't be driving? If you have only been driving for such a short time and already you are running red lights/speeding etc, maybe you need a break from your licence. It sounds like you didnt learn much whilst you were on ur L plates.

Sorry if i sound harsh but thats what i think. Think about ur actions.

[WazR32GTSt]

You are in the wrong, bend over and cop it sweet.

what he said

you broke the law on a number of occasions. yet, you want to appeal the loss of a lisence? when you get your lisence it comes with the conditions that you abide by the laws of the road. you broke the law (on number of occasions) and you have to cop it. simple.

you need your lisence for work? should have thought of that mate before you broke the law... that's the responsibility that comes with being 18+ and having a lisence.

i don't mean to be harse here mate, it just sounds a little stupid. its like saying

"i killed a guy, but i can't go to jail as i have work to go to in the morning, so do you think they judge will just let me off?"

[Beauie]

Just ask 4 a "Section 10A"

Pay the fine and dont lose the points, or something like that

[Kel]

Everyones done dumb shit paladin, you included, dont try and deny it. The important thing is whether u learn from it or not.

Hmmm- I find it hard to believe you "learn" from your mistakes if you don't take responsibility for them?

I know a few guys who lost their licences when they were young and stupid, and have come out better drivers because of it (catching public transport for a year will do that to you).

We might not like the laws, but we all said we'd drive to them when we got our licences.

And, I'm with Paladin and xRHETTx - there's no excuse for running a red, or talking on a mobile when you're driving for that matter- that's why God invented the handsfree kit.

[The_Paladin]

messiah,

you are right, everyone has done dumb shite before. i have too in a car, though out of inexperience. but this guy dosent see it as dumb, he see's it as petty. and his suspension not as justice, but as an incovinience. as though he's done nothing wrong. and if he dosent think he's done anything wrong, he'll keep running reds and breaking the law. that's where the problem is.......................

[godzla32]

oh true. yeah just got my green p's//

funny tho i still have not been pulled over in my gtr.. yet.

it says i have the right of an appeal, and to lodge one at a local court in nsw within 28 days.

is that a letter or could i just get my solicitor to do so?

Yes everyone has a right to appeal BUT considering the offences you have mentioned the judge will throw it out and the court fees will have to be payed by you for wasting their time.

Id think twice before going to court probably should cop the suspesion and learn from it

[mini2]

The court fee isn't all that huge unless you decided to grab a lawyer to represent you. Worth a shot if his means of living is at stake.

[Beer Baron]

Andrew, I believe that you are having your licence suspended due to exceeding 7 demerit points, is that correct? If so from memory the mandatory period of suspension is 6 months. I think the best thing to do is cop it and get it over and done with. you could opt for the 12 months on 1 point thing, but it'll be pretty hard for you to keep that one point for 12 months, and if you do lose that point then you will cop it much worse.

[Guest Mashrock]

messiah,  

you are right, everyone has done dumb shite before.  i have too in a car, though out of inexperience.  but this guy dosent see it as dumb, he see's it as petty.  and his suspension not as justice, but as an incovinience.  as though he's done nothing wrong.  and if he dosent think he's done anything wrong, he'll keep running reds and breaking the law.  that's where the problem is.......................

we're not all angels!!!

and i dont see it as an inconvinience.. my boss does not have a licence so i have to drive for work. which will effect the business. my job and his business!!

[Guest Mashrock]

Andrew, I believe that you are having your licence suspended due to exceeding 7 demerit points, is that correct? If so from memory the mandatory period of suspension is 6 months. I think the best thing to do is cop it and get it over and done with. you could opt for the 12 months on 1 point thing, but it'll be pretty hard for you to keep that one point for 12 months, and if you do lose that point then you will cop it much worse.

3 month suspension.. but i need my licence for work. i occasionaly drive a light truck to go pick up machines from over nsw.. as my boss dosnt have a licence, he depends on me....

My boss is organising his barrister to do it for me. so hopefully it will work out ok.

i beleive i can be ok on the 1, or 2 point's they give you for however months it is... i'll definatley not be driving the skyline for sure. to and from the track is about all. petrol sucks!!

Anyone selling a cheep shitter with a 10 months rego????

Andrew.

[SKY031]

my boss does not have a licence so i have to drive for work. which will effect the business. my job and his business!!

Perhaps you should take these things into consideration before you go running red lights.

If you think that running a red light is petty, you don't deserve a licence.

[Guest Mashrock]

did i say it was petty?

**** off!

[xRHETTx]

I need to appeal my licence suspension.

its for petty shit like

talking on phone, red light, and driving a manual when ment to be in an auto.

Andrew.

Yes, yes you did. But enough of the arguing.

[slow13dude]

Running red lights is very dangerous and pretty unforgiveable. Unless you're an Ambulance.

[usuckpoo]

if those are the only options presented to u i reckon 1 pt for 12 months is the best take?

Rather than an outright suspension for 3 months

[pentae]

I ran a red light once, i was coming up to a left hand turn into a 3 lane road, (so I had a lot of room to do it quickly), and just snuck through after the amber went to red. It was totally safe, and I scanned and shoulder checked. I got my letter in the mail.. 3 points and $xxx ..

I copped it and paid the fine, but if i had done the equivelant in the USA it would have been legal.

[Guest Mashrock]

I ran a red light once, i was coming up to a left hand turn into a 3 lane road, (so I had a lot of room to do it quickly), and just snuck through after the amber went to red. It was totally safe, and I scanned and shoulder checked. I got my letter in the mail.. 3 points and $xxx ..  

I copped it and paid the fine, but if i had done the equivelant in the USA it would have been legal.

yeah driving in the states rocks! its right turn on red everywhere! i loved it. got kinda confusing tho.

when i wrote petty shit i didnt mean to include the red light. but just the manual and phone shit.

and i was asking for advice from people. or similar experiences. not idiots telling me what i've done wrong.. you think i dont know already?