Semi-slick fronts - street rears

[inissane]

am contemplating the tiltled setup for improved braking and front end grip without breaking the bank cause my rears dont last that long anyway. Is this a reciped for snappy or excessive oversteer? Will it be imbalanced or if driven with the setup in mind should be ok?

ideas apprec

PS 180sx RB20DET infrequent track work and understand front wet grip may be reduced

[NZM.031]

i was thinking the same thing, as my rears wear at a fairly rapid rate.... i was going to go with some decent road tyres with semis up the front.

[Sydneykid]

Rears wearing too fast usually indicates poor suspension alignment and/or excessive rear spring rates and inappropriate damper rates. If you fix those problems and use better rear tyres, you won't loose as much traction and wear the tyres out so fast. Plus you will go faster of course.

[dangerous_daveo]

Rears wearing too fast usually indicates poor suspension alignment and/or excessive rear spring rates and inappropriate damper rates.  If you fix those problems and use better rear tyres, you won't loose as much traction and wear the tyres out so fast.  Plus you will go faster of course.

Ahh, but you forget about skids and the like

[Abo Bob]

I have driven with some really good street tyres on the front and really bad ones on the back which is nearly comparable.

It's pretty much as you would expect. You have no front end issues, barely even think about it because you are perpetually concerned about your rear end stepping out, as it does again and again.

You can only then drive as fast out of a corner as your rear tyres will allow; ie reduced speed due to wheelspin.

Under heavy brakes again the back end steps out but the situation is not as bad comparatively speaking.

High speed corners I found fairly intimidating. Not comfortable.

[inissane]

cheers guys interesting, my rears wearing is as much due to my occassional penchant for improving power slides turning into drifts :kick: and i guess that if I am really pushing and wearing my fronts it means I am going around corners far too quickly to be legal on the road.

Having said that I am interested in reducing rear wear so ideas apprec (cheers SK), have cusco coil overs all round. Maybe these combined with the odd 185 tyre i lob on is the problem!

And AB good point about high speed corner entry, good example is the right hander at the end of the straight at Wakefield - dam thing almost went sideways on a down change at 160km/hr, dont suppose the grip differential would improve that at all! maybe wider street rears

[benm]

I wish my rear tyres would lose grip so I could learn some oversteer manouvers Even after 3 trackdays (~150+ laps), 30 drag runs and 40,000km on the road I still get no oversteer (the car is more likely to push than anything - on the track).

SK: I'm sure you have mentioned it somewhere but I have no idea which thread, what are correct spring/damper rates etc for a stockish (power) R33 GTS-t for circuit/drag work (50/50) which I know isn't ideal but hell im not out to crack a 10sec pass or 2mins around bathurst.

[NZM.031]

im talking about pure drift use. my rears have held up well so far. due to the camber on the rears, makes it easier to break traction as there isnt large contact patch, and also when the insides wear out, i get the tyres swapped over so the outsides are worn, the insides are brand new.

benm, what sort of tyres are you using?? my stockish 33 has no trouble lighting the rears, thats with 255/35 pirelli p7000s.

cheers

Linton

[benm]

Michelin Preceda 225/50/16.

I was talking to a mate last saturday night and from memory he has 255's and says he has no issues frying those either (with a fair bit less power too).

Maybe my engine is forgetting to produce (nm) and only producing (kw)

[Abo Bob]

Maybe you have a longer diff in it. How many revs are you doing in 4th gear at 100km/h

[benm]

nfi, i'll check tonight.