The :) and :( of drag wars

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[ix9]

Originally posted by GTS-t VSPEC

Hicks,

or is it voided if you take it to the drags?

See'ya:burnout:

tsk tsk

[gtrken]

Hicks , if your new clutch is one of those nine buttoned purple ones, I think you'll find its actually brass, not ceramic .

Don't really matter cos the lunchmaster , err * Launchmaster * aka Rhino aka Ryan has got one in his R and hasn't killed it yet with redline 4wd clutch dumps so you should be sweet.

BTW , I installed mine, went straight to the malaga test track and launched off the limiter on one of my previous R's so bedding em in is not really an issue.

cheers

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I wasn't trying to revive an already dead or potentially touchy subject, but these clutches are designed to handle high horsepower, what if they shit themselves within a month can you expect a free rebuild or not?

See'ya :burnout:

[rev210]

Originally posted by GTS-t VSPEC

I wasn't trying to revive an already dead or potentially touchy subject, but these clutches are designed to handle high horsepower, what if they shit themselves within a month can you expect a free rebuild or not?

See'ya :burnout:

If they shit themselves within a month its probably your fault and you should think about an even tougher clutch or one from another company.

I wouldn't give a warranty on anything like that. I mean would you give a warranty to a guy who says " I am going to do my best to kill this clutch anyway I can, so can you give me a warranty mate?". If the clutch guy gives you a warranty he's lost his marbles. He won't know that I am going to do a burnout whilst towing a house on a trailer will he?

If you want to go faster than factory you will always break things For the enthusiast you will soon learn it is almost 99.99% of the time your fault for driving the car like it was intended. It's like those people who get race engines built and expect them to last without a rebuild for more than 2 years.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Rev210,

I was thinking more that they claim that it can hold 500hp, and yet with your 300hp car the clutch still gets fried. I think the claims by some of the clutch manufacturers are not really accurate, as I'm sure my twin-plate would not last long against 600hp.

Even Macka's clutch is shitting itself, and he only has 300rwhp. Should we expect a clutch rebuild every 9 months as par for the course?

See'ya:burnout:

[rev210]

Originally posted by GTS-t VSPEC

Rev210,

I was thinking more that they claim that it can hold 500hp, and yet with your 300hp car the clutch still gets fried. I think the claims by some of the clutch manufacturers are not really accurate, as I'm sure my twin-plate would not last long against 600hp.

Even Macka's clutch is shitting itself, and he only has 300rwhp. Should we expect a clutch rebuild every 9 months as par for the course?

See'ya:burnout:

It depends how you drive, how often and how you like the clutch to feel. If you like to drive your car hard then expect to kill the clutch some times and your gearbox and your diff and your fan belts and your brakes and uni joints and center bearings and just about anything else you rely on.

Group A cars have the toughest of this, that and the other and they blow stuff up and wear it out at alarming rates. Why should you think any differently? if you do then you just get more upset when things break than you need to.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Rev210,

I don't mind breaking things, I was fully expecting my factory clutch to shit itself, and it did. I do however get annoyed when you purchase something and it doesn't live up to its promise. I do hope that I won't have to change the gearbox for a while, as that would be very expensive.

See'ya:burnout:

[Guest Rhino]

As Ken said I got one of Ross's purple jobbies in my R and have had no dramas in about 2,000k's of driving, and that has included an MC day, Drags and a whole heap of spirited driving. I bedded it in for about 500k's and since then I think it is getting grippier!!!

And yes I believe I have done about 20 or so 6,000-7,500 launches with it. That has to be the equivalent of at least 40 GTS25t launches, simply because of the extra load a GTR puts through the clutch.

Trust Ross's work and the product he uses, the list of Sau people with his work in their cars is growing andit aint cause he does dodgy work.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Rhino,

I certainly wans't suggesting or implying that the work at any of the clutch places here was in any way not extremely good. In fact I was more having a go at the claims from the Jap manufacturers, whose claims of supporting 600hp is wildly over-optimistic.

I'm glad your clutch is still going strong, as is my twin-plate. I was just curious if these products which are designed for racing/drags have any warranty associated with them.

See'ya:burnout:

[Guest Rhino]

Yeah, whoops should have read ALL of the posts

Bottom line I guess is that a clutch is a wearing part, much like tyres or belts and I assume that they are only covered from manufacturing faults, not the conditions of their use??

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I guess it's hard to work out whether it was a manufacturing fault or too much power, so I guess we have to try a clutch and if we like it good, if we don't try another brand.

See'ya:burnout:

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Rhino

As Ken said I got one of Ross's purple jobbies in my R and have had no dramas in about 2,000k's of driving, and that has included an MC day, Drags and a whole heap of spirited driving. I bedded it in for about 500k's and since then I think it is getting grippier!!!

And yes I believe I have done about 20 or so 6,000-7,500 launches with it. That has to be the equivalent of at least 40 GTS25t launches, simply because of the extra load a GTR puts through the clutch.

Trust Ross's work and the product he uses, the list of Sau people with his work in their cars is growing andit aint cause he does dodgy work.

Did it cost you about 800 bucks??

[rev210]

Originally posted by Hicks

Did it cost you about 800 bucks??

That is about right. The friction disc is $330, fitting $250, pressure plate around $220. or something. I only bought the friction disc.

Its definately a ceramic composite friction material. See below pic.

http://forums.skylinesaustralia.com/attach...=&postid=100035

[Guest Rhino]

I think it was closer to $900 from memory but the extra is all in the labour not in the parts used, it takes a lot more to do a GTR clutch than a GTS25t one, ask GTRKen.