r33 upgrades quotes

[cordiapower]

Hi everyone

I'm importing a '94 r33 skyline, which is pretty standard mechanically except exhaust so im interested in what i can do and what would it cost to make it faster?

I'm thinking first thing to put intercooler in and i was quoted $1000 for 600*300 for hybrid, then i was told to put wolf3d computer for 1400 bucks made specially for skyline so tunning would cost like 100 bucks, and buy aftermarket turbo as highflows dont achieve as big power gains, minding i still want as least lag as possible so which one would u recommend?

I was told i dont need to upgrade injectors and pump as its wquite big from factory but i found it hard to believe?

Can u tell me what do you think and give me some quotes of how much would everything cost, how good is this wolf 3d and what turbo is best to get and thingds like, how much for upgraded pump/injectors, clutch etc.

thanks and regards

[nismo33]

well...its all depending on your budget and how much you would like to achive really. but if you want to get things done a bit cheaper..shop around..$1G's for an intercooler is a bit too much i reckon..u can now get them for $6-700 bucks..wolf 3D's are good..again,. depending which version..ii got the version 4 which has the boost setting..cost about 2-300 bucks to tune them on your prefered settings..or u can get the Apexi FC for a little less than the Wolf 3D.

high flowed turbo do achive power gains...but i'd say better off getting one of those HKS or garretts ones.

no need for injectors or fuel pump just yet though..they're good to handle around 200rwkw but to be safe..u might aswell upgrade them if you're aiming for bigger KWs. maybe an 044 pump and 550cc injectors will set u back say..atleast $1500--2nd hand.

and there comes the clutch...u will need to upgrade that one aswell..and you're looking at maybe $700? just shop around and u can probably get them much cheaper.

[shif_tea]

hey man, for prices on these things try www.nengun.com if you don't mind waiting a little while (a few weeks anyway) for the parts to arrive. It'll be the cheaper way of doing things. I've heard the HKS GT-RS turbo is a good replacement, with not too much lag and good power.

Also check out the Power FC from nengun as they are pretty cheap and arguably better than the wolf (depending on who ya talk to) also theres a fair few people that can tune em now.

Talk to Xclutch about the new clutch, theres a fair few people using them and they're much cheaper than the japanese alternatives.

Dunno about prices to install things some of these things.

Good luck

[Dee 33]

I have just had major upgrades done to my car from stock and used both an aftermarket turbo and the wolf3d v4.

With the following...

IPS460hp low mount turbo (internal gate)

Garret 300x600 fmic kit

Walbro 500hp pump

Malpassi Fuel Reg

3inch from turb with hi flow cat

apexi pod filter

5 hours of dyno tuning

Just over 240rwkw on 16psi using standard injectors. The tuner said there was definately more power there but the injectors were not going to go any higher.

As for the wolf? The car is amazing! It roars all the way to redline and beyond (accidentally hit the limiter (8k) in 1st because the revs flew up so bloody fast). It's a whole new machine. No complaints from me for any of the parts installed.

My only whinge? Standard clutch lasted 2 hours. If your clutch is a little week, get it upgraded!

[Angry]

found this ad in fast fours..... www.kgcm2.com

r33 cooler and piping kit ..hybrid copy going on the photos for 650. plus shipping

check it out maybe

Matt

[cordiapower]

Thanks for your input guys...dee33 can u give some prices and how much and how good is the turbo u used?

[cordiapower]

How good is that cooler from kgcm3 site, is there any big differences apart from brand names

[leech_]

yea appreciate the link angry sent an email off earlier today only downer is i havent got a reply yet just asked the general questions piping size is it a hybrid copy or their own one anyways thanks again its a good price if they will ever get back to me.

[cordiapower]

Is the hks gt-r turbo off the Nengan site direct bolt on turbo or you need to modify anything and need new manifold?

[shif_tea]

i'm pretty sure it comes in a kit and is a direct bolt on. If you log on it gives you some info, plus theres a few other alternatives on there as well. Heard good things about the HKS GT-RS though as a direct replacement on the r33

[INASNT]

I was told i dont need to upgrade injectors and pump as its quite big from factory but i found it hard to believe?

Learn how to drive the car first before you worry about modifying it, and stay away from any workshop that has an association with sst as they still think stock r33 injectors can be used for unlimited power.

[Al]

Have been using the Wolf for the past 2-3 years, absolutely no problem, and has the added feature of pin security.

The Wolf is just as good/realiable as the power fc, it all depends on the knowledge of the tuner. If your mechanic is comfortable with the wolf, use that. If he knows the PFC use that instead.

I chose my ecu because of my mechanic, i didn't change my trusted mechanic because of my ecu.

[r33freely]

im in the same boat as you, just started modify my R33 gtst.

the one thing you didnt mention is how much power your after?.....when i ist got my car i had huge plans for making stupid amounts of power but since ive had it and even in stock form it has impressed me %100.

so far ive only added twin dump pipe and full 3" exhaust/pod filter.... and the thing screams!!

maybee look at minor mods and think about spending the bucks on suspension ect?

as for the ecu, i agree with alan in the sense that its important to get the right computer for the right tuner, what do any of you guys think about some of the other brands on the market like ems/ motec ect? is there a reason there not popular?

also can anyone tell us how there high flowed turbo goes? as im interested in getting it done as i wouldhave thaught the smaller turbo would have some advanteges

Regards Dave

[r33freely]

anyone at all with the high flow???

[shif_tea]

Hey dude,

do a search, theres plenty of threads on here with the old high-flow vs aftermarket turbos.

[fresh]

if u r going bigger turbo u will deffo need a bigger fuel pump and an adjustable reg.

i am still running the stock turbo and have had no problem maxxing out the injectors, this usually occurs only in 1st and 2nd when i'm giving it the boot but if u r going to get a bigger turbo u'd be stupid to risk it all by not upgrading the fuel system

seems like a silly risk, if u can't afford it all right now (like me) then go the fuel system first better to be safe then sorry, and a second engine ain't cheap

[LiAm]

does anyone know of someone who has used the kgcm2 intercoler? if so what is it like? and going on what the site says do you think its worth the money?

cheers

[Munna]

Only going on what I have learned on these forums and personal experience. Hope this helps

I would drive it standard for a while for a start they are pretty quick in standard form. Do plenty of research and shop around before you do anything.

Depending on how much money you have I would do these mods for a start.

1. Make sure you have an aftermarket exhaust from the turbo back ~$500 for cat and front/dump pipe

2. larger intercooler kit and cai ~$1000

3. wolf 3d, power FC ect. what ever your tuner prefers. but if its the power FC get the boost controller kit with it. ~$1500 fitted and tuned

These mods alone will make a huge improvement around 175 to 200kw @ the wheels (depending on the dyno ect.) From here it gets expensive because a lot of your stock parts will be nearing the limits. If I were you id upgrade the suspention, wheels, and tyres no good having all that power if you cant put it to the ground.

Next you will need

Turbo - aftermarket HKS GTRS ect ~$2500 or highflow standard one ~$1800

Injectors ~$600

Fuel pump ~$400

clutch ~$500 maybe not sure

cams ~$1000 optional but will make a big difference at this stage.

You will also need to add labour to fit parts and tune ECU ect.

You will probably make from 230 to 270rwkw with these mods.

have fun