legal advice

[jaqule]

I sold my car at the start of the year (see car of the month oct 04)

it had been in a few defect stations and never had troubles everytime the cops looked at it up here in QLD. But now the current owner has been defected for non std airfillter (even tho it's in a box) non-std BOV which is both plumb back and atmo(have to bite the bullet on that one) non std exzaust with Hot dog. But the big one that got me was non-std intercooler that now has to be returned to std, why would this be so ? why pick on the intercooler ?

Being all that as it may, can anyone help with a number for legal advice relating to modifications to cars? or just advice in genral as they are really doing a job on him, and as being the former owner I feel obligated to help if I can!

thanks in advance

[Lepperfish]

His car his problem.

[Jimbo2000]

true, its really nice and refreshing to see that you actually care, but he should have known that a car with modifications anything other than stock could be considered defectable if the scruteneer is enough of a prick.. if he didnt know that its a harsh new lesson

[GTR_Legend]

Hey,

The air filter should be ok if it is boxed in, he should be able to fight that one.

The BOV should be plumback only.

The only rules i know about the exhaust is that it has to be 100mm+ from the ground, low noise 98db or less (guess) and MUST have the CAT (not punched out)

The FMIC should be fine but i have heard that you can have either a pod air filter OR FMIC, not both.

Anyone else correct me on this or shed some more light

[Lepperfish]

My old 33 I sold was heavily modified. I never got harrassed for defects. Not even once.

The new owner was a tool and he got defected repeatadly..

The new owner of your car could be asking for defects you know..

[rukus]

My old 33 I sold was heavily modified. I never got harrassed for defects. Not even once.

The new owner was a tool and he got defected repeatadly..

The new owner of your car could be asking for defects you know..

that dude in ur avatar is hilarious

lol

[jaqule]

I know I know all this, but can anybody help with a number for legal advice as I would really like this to be sorted?

thanks for the advice tho!

[benm]

Exhaust = 90db.

Air filter is fine.

BOV is illegal.

FMIC is illegal.

Good luck in getting legal advice. I've rung the RTA with repeated responses of "anything on the car that was not originally on the car (or a factory option) is illegal".

Maybe contact someone that engineers cars and get their advice/modification documents.

Or maybe this is of help: http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/dow...si/vsi_dl1.html

[GTR_Legend]

They are pr!cks

The use of drugs are illegal, but it is also illegal to make them.

The use of non-standard mods to cars are illegal, but you can buy them.

Maybe we should just start hanging exhausts, pistons & BOV's on our bedroom walls for decoration. :Bang:

PS. I have decided to contact the RTA to see if i can get any info or contacts from them.

[GTR_Legend]

I have contacted the RTA and the guy said that they have taken off the Vehicle standards information - VSI 06, which was for vehicle modifications.

They must be making changes to it.

The RTA guy said that if you have an engineer's cert for the mod and have updated your records at the RTA, they deem it to be LEGAL.

But cops can still defect you. But you should be able to get out of it if the engineer & RTA say it is roadworthy.

Got a quote from one guy in blacktown, $165 per hour for a chat on mods & any photocopying of standards is extra.

The dentist charges less

[Lepperfish]

So if your involved in a crash and your car is deemed unroadworthy because you have a front mount intercooler does that void your insurance because you have a defectable vehicle ?

[GTR_Legend]

If you have an engineers certificate and also have notified you insurance company all should be fine.

you have to notify your insurance company of all mods or they may void it

[Abo Bob]

I have contacted the RTA and the guy said that they have taken off the Vehicle standards information - VSI 06, which was for vehicle modifications.

They must be making changes to it.

The RTA guy said that if you have an engineer's cert for the mod and have updated your records at the RTA, they deem it to be LEGAL.

But cops can still defect you.  But you should be able to get out of it if the engineer & RTA say it is roadworthy.

Got a quote from one guy in blacktown, $165 per hour for a chat on mods & any photocopying of standards is extra.

The dentist charges less

The dentist does not charge less.

If he is an expert then that price is reasonable. He should be able to tell you in an hour what is good and what isn't.

[jaqule]

can I get a number for this guy just so I can pass it on please!

[GTR_Legend]

can I get a number for this guy just so I can pass it on please!

Attached is the contact list from the RTA

VSI-15

[benm]

The use of non-standard mods to cars are illegal, but you can buy them.

I totally agree.

On 99.9% of the packaging of such items at your local Supercheap, Autobarn etc etc does not state anything about the product being an illegal modification for a road registered car. This should be mandatory!!

[GTR_Legend]

I think there is really no formal standards or regulations that are communicated to/from the RTA, Police & Insurance companies and also the manufactures of after market parts. When i got picked on by a cop the other night he did not say anything about my FMIC but picked on everything else. But like i said any non-standard mods are illegal. I think they just seriously like to big note themselves and f@$K us around, well some of them anyway.

[ultimatepowder]

I think there is really no formal standards or regulations that are communicated to/from the RTA, Police & Insurance companies and also the manufactures of after market parts.

isnt that what the ADR's are for????

i know dotars are pretty confused at the moment, but isnt that why these rules are implemented?....ive never seen a copy of them, so i dont know how specific it is, but shouldnt "mods" be covered somewhere?

[GTR_Legend]

isnt that what the ADR's are for????

i know dotars are pretty confused at the moment, but isnt that why these rules are implemented?....ive never seen a copy of them, so i dont know how specific it is, but shouldnt "mods" be covered somewhere?

Yeah, thats what they do. But if you asked the cops something out of the ADR book, you would either get "Have a nice day", "Everything is illegal", "How does she go" or "Don't know, buy me a doughnut". Cops do not know all the standards and some don't care.

Insurance companies will cover you if you hav a BOV & notify them, but because it is ilegal to have an atmos bov, they shouldn't cover you. I don't see the insurance company asking for engineers certs or if it is a atmos or plumback BOV.

"Sorry sir, becuase you have an atmos bov, we can't cover you"

I thought our IT infrastructure was bad. All this mod shi! is just a big mess. :headshot:

[HKS34R]

Exhaust = 90db.

This may change your mind about that.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=72123