Stuck in gear.

[someonestolecc]

Hi,

I'm stuck in 3rd gear, been stuck for a while. I think the thrust bearing was on it's way out before getting stuck (it was whirring/clunking with the clutch pedal up, then when you'd press down on it you could hear it wind down for a few then stop making the noise).

Question is - if I replace the thrust bearing, along with a clutch plate and pressure plate with a machined flywheel. Will the gearbox then come out of gear? Or will I have to put a new box in as well?

The reason I ask is because if I run the car and put my foot off the clutch pedal it will try to roll forward then stall (basically, the clutch seems to pickup still).

When trying to pull it out of 3rd it will only go down a little bit but not entirely out of 3rd, if I try to put the clutch pedal up in this half way out stage grinding can be heard from the gearbox.

I've got a gearbox and clutch ready to go in, I just want to avoid putting the gearbox in for now (as I don't know it's condition) and wondering if the clutch kit itself will help.

Thanks.

[Sumo]

when you pull the gearbox out to do the clutch, see if it will come loose then. Have you tried taking all the weight off the g/box to see if it will come free? Any sort of incline will put weight on the box, and want to stop it from releasing.

Cheers

Sumo

[SteveL]

Can you get it out of 3rd with he engine off ?? If it's still stuck in gear with engine off it's most likely a gearbox problem.

[BHDave]

Sounds like your clutch is dragging, have you bled the hydraulics to make sure you haven't got air in the system?

As steveL has said, if you can get the car out of gear when it's switched off then it'd point to the clutch not fully disengaging rather than the box being stuck. Even with the clutch dragging you should still be able to pull it out of gear when the engine is running.

If you're really lucky you have a dragging clutch and a rooted box Swap them both.

[someonestolecc]

I can't get it out if it's off. The car is quite literally stuck in 3rd. I've tried jiggling it, heaving it, pleading to it and bashing it.

Sumo how would I get the weight off it? I've tried pulling it out on the hill it stopped, in my driveway, on the lawn, halfway down the street, on the street etc etc all different inclines. I've even 'bumped' the gearstick to shake the box on it's mounts left to right hoping it might get it unstuck.

Dave I haven't bled the hydraulics. Sounds stupid but I don't know how, I might look in the s13 workshop manual tonight and see if I can give it a go without putting more fluid in (that stuff is damn expensive). I don't think this is it however as the box had been locked out of 3rd and 4th for about a week before this happened so I think something i s wrong with the box.

Wow Dave so by the sounds of it I'm really lucky?

Shit yeah!

[SteveL]

I can't get it out if it's off. The car is quite literally stuck in 3rd. I've tried jiggling it, heaving it, pleading to it and bashing it.

I'm afraid this is a gearbox out situation - somethings broken or bent. Since you have another gb and clutch don't waste anymore time on the one in the car just change it over.

[someonestolecc]

D'oh.

Thanks for the info.

The other gearbox was out a sr20de transplanted corolla and I got it for $100.

As you can tell I don't have a high expectation of that box but we'll see how it goes

[Beer Baron]

i would say you have most likely broken a selector. that is why you can't get it out of third. possible just bent a selector but i'm guessing it's cracked. in fact I'd almost put money on it.

i have a question. have you ever had any fun out of this car? it's been a pretty awful sounding 6 months so far.

[someonestolecc]

Yeah I had some fun mmmgtir. I picked up my (now) girlfriend in it one day, I was going for a cruise and I saw her at the bus stop and picked her up.

It broke down on the way to getting wherever we were going and it was about that time I figured out she was a decent girl when talking to her on the side of the road.... she's been my gf since

Also I pulled a burnout in it once.

Other than that.. no... oh wait.. the engine fire was fun, uhm.. finding out I had no screws holding my engine in that was pretty funny.. heh no seriously I did laugh.

And uhm.. yea what else

I should have bought your GTiR.

[Beer Baron]

mate, as long as you've had some fun in it, it's should be worthwhile. it should be a good car once it's eventually sorted.

I am actually looking to buy a silvia or 180 or maybe even a 31 sky as a race car. I want to keep the GTR predominately a road car.

[someonestolecc]

Richard you should have a look around the cefiro circles at the moment there were a few really really nice ones going around for cheap and stripped out they're pretty much as light as silvia and look the goods also

[Beer Baron]

yeah, but I personally think that an SR20 is the gun engine to have. hmmm maybe you should sell me yours....

I like that silvias are cheap, I can buy an SR turbo manual for under $9K or buy a SR non-turbo man or auto for under $5K. then I will strip it out, do all the suspension and brakes (and if needed slot in a SR turbo) and bobs your mothers brother I have a cheap race car that will probably be as quick around a track as my GTR (if not quicker) and be a lot cheaper to blow up/crash...

[someonestolecc]

Yeah the sr is a gun engine.

And yeah silvias are cheap. Stripped out there's not a lot that can beat them like that to thrap, they have lots of ready parts and yeah it's all good.

Hmm I've been considering selling my car, but I've just finished fixing it after this!!!

Hmm still got your GTiR?

[Jax]

DON'T drive it!! When you get it out, have a quick look inside. Should be easy to see what's bent or broken. You have'nt lent it to any of your mates lalely, have you?.. Any of your mates [or girlfriends] sort of fairly hairy, with longish arms?? Sounds like only a bloody Gorilla could do that much damage, changing gear.

[Duncan]

hahahah your car is providing fun for everyone on the forums

what does work OK?

BTW clutch fluid is dirt cheap, its just cheap brake fluid, DOT 3 or 4 would be fine

[TommO]

I've had a problem of my previous car not coming out of second gear before. It would literally not come out of gear, no matter what I did. It turned out to be the master/slave cylinders packing it in. Hopefully it's an easy fix for you

[Beer Baron]

Yeah the sr is a gun engine.

And yeah silvias are cheap. Stripped out there's not a lot that can beat them like that to thrap, they have lots of ready parts and yeah it's all good.

Hmm I've been considering selling my car, but I've just finished fixing it after this!!!

Hmm still got your GTiR?

hmmm, i'd say don't sell it. after all this it's bound to be ok. if you do though give me a shout.

GTI-R is gone mate i miss it too. such a nice little car

i'm still thinking selector.

[fwddriftking]

yeah man i'd have to say ive nuked two SR gearbox's in the two 180's that ive owned. apparently they have a semi weak imput shaft and from what i can tell they don't like quick button off from wheel spin.

My first box i twisted the output shaft and stripped third and second. My 180 at the moment i shattered the input shaft and the main cluster. I guess the moral to this story is that maybe i should be so abusive. BUt sounds like a clutch problem to me. Had a five puck weld to the flywheel. couldn't get it out of gear then.

[Blu32]

i have a similar problem except it hasnt gotten fully stuck in gears yet...

Im havin trouble getting it into gears when the car is stopped.... the gearstick just wont go into forst or any other gear... and i have to use excessive force...

It's also been stuck in gear a few times... like i put the car in neutral but it still stays in that gear... ???

Any ideas ? as its gettin more and more difficult to get into gear!

Thanks

[turbohectics]

i have a similar problem except it hasnt gotten fully stuck in gears yet...  

Im havin trouble getting it into gears when the car is stopped.... the gearstick just wont go into forst or any other gear... and i have to use excessive force...  

It's also been stuck in gear a few times... like i put the car in neutral but it still stays in that gear... ???  

Any ideas ? as its gettin more and more difficult to get into gear!

Thanks

Mine doesn't like going into first either!

I just (whilst stuck at lights ) try to go in first rarely goes in so i proceed straight to forth (clunk sound )then go in first goes in str8 away.

Also as pushin up to first ,firmly till won't go in any more .give it a rev.

As for putting in neutral and it still in gear"start puttin $100 bucks aweek away......you will be needing it!!!

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