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well true but im not bagging cerfiros or anything but there is no way there woth over $20k the way the market is, there still buying and landing for under $10k with s15motors.

sorry its a bit off topic but thats a bit like saying r32 gt-r can be landed for less than 18k ..

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yes maybe it could be, but i dont think im asking over 30k for my gtr am i? u still can sell a cerfiro for $13-16 if i put my gtr to std and advertised it for $21k i think it would be a bargin considering the condition, so what are u trying to say.

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