Can Weber get up tonight?

[Mika]

Hey, i like Brundles commentary, better then Murray Walker:)

Blasphemy!

I think Martin is good...James Allen will be just like Murray when he gets older...he's made a few murray-esque comments over the last 2 years!

[Roy]

15th :confused:

Mayve a should get a good nights sleep instead. Weber, JV and DC all qualified badly:(

[Duncan]

yeah too late for me on a school night

[Kel]

The only problem is you can't get good coverage of the results on breakfast telly the next day - well that is unless Webber does well or farks it!

At least it's getting mixed up a little, a nice change from last year where you only watched to see who'd take 3rd.

[ECR033]

The only problem is you can't get good coverage of the results on breakfast telly the next day - well that is unless Webber does well or farks it!

That's a good thing though - that way it doesn't spoil the race when I get around to watching it after I get home from work

Doesn't look too promising for Webber tonight. Starting from P9 (probably P12 by the end of the first corner) means that a points finish may be all we can hope for tonight.

[benm]

I'll be recording it in mpeg/ts format once again

[inissane]

yah I hope our cricketers atleast do something good tonight - u guys hear that beaten by Bangladesh :confused:

what is the world coming to :werd:

[Mecha]

yah I hope our cricketers atleast do something good tonight - u guys hear that beaten by Bangladesh :confused:  

what is the world coming to :werd:

Yeah thats one game i wish i didnt watch!

I hada bit of a dilema,I got an exam at 9:30 tomorrow but i want to watch the F1.

My soloution: Sleep all day today(just woke up for a small feed) then wake up at 2:30 for race then study till 8 then leave for Uni.

Briliant!

[Roy]

Lowest Of Lows!!!!

[BHDave]

6 cars? Thats ****ing pathetic.

On the bright side, Stodart's boys finished, it'll be the most points he's got in one race since Webber pulled a 5th out of his arse in Melbourne.

[GTRgeoff]

This has to be close to the end for F1 as legitimate motorsport.

What a joke.

[Roy]

I should have wheeled the R32 out there on the Bridgestone RE55s. Could have re-badged the Nissan a Renault, and i could havee scored points in an F1 GP:) Hell i could have bumped wheels with all those flash cars and taken them out...

[GTRgeoff]

I guess you could have made that many laps........

[ECR033]

Lowest Of Lows!!!!

:werd:

Bloody disgraceful.

Even though the withdrawal of the Michelin runners was not the direct result of anything that Ferrari (or the other Bridgestone teams) did, they blocked every attempt to somehow get the race running for the greater good of the sport and the fans. They could have installed the chicane before turn 12 which would have slowed the cars down enough for the Michelin tyres to be safe, but Ferrari blocked that resolution and therefore ensured we had no race to watch. Sure, the Michelin teams deserve to be very heavily penalised, but I don't think the fans deserve the same treatment. Even if the Michelin teams were excluded from the results or had a time penalty imposed so that it would be practically impossible to finish higher than 7th (ie behind all the Bridgestone runners), they probably would have decided run to at least get some exposure for their sponsors and for the fans, even though there would be little to race for.

Talk about F1 shooting itself in the foot in a such a competive market that it was already struggling to crack in the first place - shame on Michelin, shame on F1 and shame on Ferrari (the smirk on Jean Todt's face at the start of the race said it all).

[Roy]

But if turn 13 was the main drama, is it too much to expect that the drivers should be capable of driving thru that turn at a controlled set speed? It was a cluster fark to be sure:(

In the back of my mind, you have Toyota, BMW, Honda, Mercedes and Cosworth all fighting with the FIA and Ferrari, are we surprised they dug their heels in...roll on the end of the concorde agreement and the death of F1:( What are they calling the new alternate series this month???

[Amaru]

Apparantly Ferrari said "it is up to FIA" regarding the chicane, they didnt give a direct yes/no. However, any chance they have of excluding teams in the past, they have always jumped on (read: Minardi in Melbourne). Michelin posted a number of options to FIA including running on non-qualifying tyres and being disqualified from points for this round, and the FIA said they would penalise so heavily no teams would think of doing it.

FIA needs to pull their finger out and realise they lost a shitload of future revenue in the American market and have upset alot of major sponsors.

On a side note, it would've been piss funny for Schumacher to take out Barrichello exiting the pits, leaving Jordan and Minardi to the top three

[benm]

Well what a race. Got home at 10.30am today ready to watch the F1 (recorded) and my dad says something major has happened. Straight away I knew it was to do with the tyres (as reported by RPM on Sunday arvo) but I didn't think it would be this bad.

Michelin made a mistake, a mistake that will damage them for many years to come. FIA made just as big a mistake because they couldn't see the big picture.

If it was any other race track I dare say their would have been protesters running across the track but due to the fence design for the IRL/Nascar etc it held them all back.

I've got the whole telecast in mpeg format if anybody would like particular sections.

[relicr31act]

It has to be said that Max Mosley/Bernie Ecclestone and Michelin are to blame for this ridiculous situation. Michelin farked up in a major way no doubt about it. But blind freddy could see this situation was going to occur somewhere this year. Raikkonen's huge accident at the Nurburgring should have had alarm bells ringing but it didn't. We could just as easily being talking about his or Jensen Button's funerals after that accident!! Max Mosley is equally to blame for his incessant farking with the rules. He is why we have narrow track cars (which makes them faster in a straight line because of reduced frontal area) running on grooved tyres (great idea Max!!) . Top speed at the brickyard is 350km/h per hour with a concrete wall on the outside of the corner. How is this safe? If any of us were F1 drivers and the tyre guy says that the tyres might let go pitching you into a concrete wall at over 300km/h are you going to race on them? I think not!! And now they have to run all of qualifying and the race on one set of tyres. It has been over ten years since the last fatalities in F1 and ppl have forgotten to a large extent the damage those accidents caused the sport. The current configuration of the Brickyard for F1 is idiotic in the extreme and another prime example of Mosley/Ecclestone making sure they make PLENTY of money out of any race in North America and we will forget about the safety of the drivers. I am surprised the GPDA thought it was OK to race there with GOOD tyres!! It doesn't suit the cars/tyres and is just waiting to kill someone. What was wrong with Road America? Max/Bernie wouldn't make SH*(LOADS of money out of that track, that is what is wrong with it. The best thing that could happen to F1 is if Bernie and Max are not involved. Bring on GPWC i say. As for Todt/Schumacher's win at any cost mentality. Why are ppl so surprised? Schumacher won two world titles by crashing into ppl!! He even tried to kill his brother and teammate at Monaco this year with a suicidal dip at them over the start finish line! He unfortunately suffers from the same affliction as one A.Senna. He doesn't think he can be killed in an F1 car. He must now reassess his role in the GPDA as it must now be totally untenable.

[ECR033]

Just on the point regarding using Indianapolis as the track for the US GP, I read somewhere that due to the already declining crowds there and the fact that the F1 GP is sandwiched between the Indy 500 and the Brickyard 300, there is serious talk of moving the GP to the Long Beach Street circuit. Sounds like a good idea considering that they'd be lucky to get a hundred people at Indianapolis next year after this years debacle.

[ECR033]

On a side note, how's this for a laugh - Button and Sato are now the only drivers (and BAR the only team) not to score any points this year.

....I swear I remember Button saying he wanted to win races and contend for the world championship this year