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Hey guys,

just wondering if ne1 had one of the new (or old) hybrid intercoolers on there car and what they think of it ...

if not what else is a decent cooler to run say 10-14psi???

:rofl:

Hyperflow do the best cooler core on the market. They now do a kit to suit R33.

Pricing is around $1990. This includes all pipework (polished) Clamps, Silicone hose, B.O.V. Mounts Etc.

Hey guys,

just wondering if ne1 had one of the new (or old) hybrid intercoolers on there car and what they think of it ...

if not what else is a decent cooler to run say 10-14psi???

:rofl:

I have a Hybrid cooler new type limited edition one it more than what I need im running 10psi made a big differents to power and I had no extra lag I would highly recommend one of these for the price they are great.

I have a Hybrid cooler new type limited edition one it more than what I need im running 10psi made a big differents to power and I had no extra lag I would highly recommend one of these for the price they are great.

I have very similar mods to you and have just bought one of the new Hybrid cooler kits off someone on the forums and was initially worried that it was too big... but you don't have any extra lag? has it hurt the response at all?

hey chris keep your eye on the for sale section, you can't go wrong with the brand name jap kits, they mostly bolt straight up... just be sure the size of the cooler and piping matches your level of modification :P

2k is hefty in anyones terms these days for a cooler + bits

GTR items are good, a little more but then a few guys are using hybrids now i think...

wonder if there is a boost drop test or something that someone might have done

I have a Hybrid cooler new type limited edition one it more than what I need im running 10psi made a big differents to power and I had no extra lag I would highly recommend one of these for the price they are great.

i have trouble believing there is absolutely no extra lag..

i have a greddy (smaller model) and there is quite noticable lag compared to stock.

this is what I would have thought, the pipework is awfully big in the Hybrid kit...  how much lag did you notice with the greddy unit siksII?  are we talking like 500rpm later than stock or ??

hey, no not 500rpm,

in terms of rpm there there is not too much difference, i.e say in first gear it will still hit full boost by 3 grand, the difference is in how boost builds..

with a stock cooler car once the turbo starts spooling full boost comes up very quickly, with a big cooler/piping the time between a bit of boost and full boost is longer, so basically is it more throttle response rather than a lot of lag.

my car wouldnt be a perfect example to compare before and after though, as i have adj cam gears, bleed valve and pfc as well which all make the boost come on differently to a stock car.

ah okay... sort of like when I have my ebc turned on and boost starts later but builds quicker... (I believe this is referred to as seting the 'gain'... ?)

I have a rebuilt motor with forgies and tomei cams so I have better than average response... I just don't want to dull it by slapping on a cooler that is too big...

I guess I'll have to try it and see;)

i have trouble believing there is absolutely no extra lag..

i have a greddy (smaller model) and there is quite noticable lag compared to stock.

If there is extra lag it mus'nt be much because I did'nt notice any more at all. It would be nice to see a before and after dyno graph the boost curves.

guys, do a search and find sydneykids calculations on lag and heat 'caused' by the bigger cooler and pipework remember at 3000 rpm your engine is consuming 3750L of air every minute.....thats assuming zero pressure difference, adding a few litres of volume is going to make stuff all difference to lag......

i've noticed hardly any difference though i did FMIC, cam gears, PFC, fuel pump and reg, clutch and full fluid and oils change (some top redline stuff) all at once so the car felt beter then new, but yeah, u got a dyno figure or are we all talking seat of the pants here ???

i have trouble believing there is absolutely no extra lag..

i have a greddy (smaller model) and there is quite noticable lag compared to stock.

Have you got a pic of the setup, dimensions of the cooler. For the life of me when i installed my Type S cooler there was no difference in lag, the car was actually punchier and with no form of aftermarket boost control my thing picked up 2psi in boost pressure:confused:

Also the R33 GTST which i installed a GTR core on, the thing drove way better then std. Not sure about boost as the car didnt have a boost gauge but to drive the car afterwards to me havingonly driven the car around the block before and after the thing drove excactly the same..the cars owners says it actually boosted quicker...(his words)

So i understand the theory why ppl think they may be laggier with a big fromt mount, but id go as far as to say that somehting is fundamentally wrong with the installation if you can notice a seat of th epants change in response for the worse:(

Unless we are talking about a 600 x 300 x 115mm Trust IC or somehting, even then it woudl be interestign to see if there is a real difference when still punting around with the std turbo!?!?!?!?!

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