Car got defected!

[gatty]

hey guys

Last thurs night the state traffic task force was up here in Bundaberg. Got a few cars including mine.

Got mine for being 99DB (should be 90 or less) and got 1 point and 75 dollar fine - it's a self fix one though so not too bad....

Someone I know in a R31 with RB20 got done for BOV, too loud, gauges not in dash, steering wheel 10mm too small, POD filter not enclosed and a bit more I think

had a sweet highway patrol car and shit - they seemed to know what they were talking about although they didn't believe me that my car was a NA

hope they don't come back up here for a while hahahha

[Eug]

ahh bad luck Aaron...

POD filter not enclosed

I believe that the pod only has to be braced down securely

[Syphon]

Hrmm wat a pain in the butt ey.

Can I ask what you mean by gauges not in dash ie. where were they mounted...

Sounds like you got off pretty lightly.

[boostn32]

Hrmm wat a pain in the butt ey.

Can I ask what you mean by gauges not in dash ie. where were they mounted...

Sounds like you got off pretty lightly.

yes explain the gauges. what was wrong there

[gatty]

he had a boost gauge and a oil temp gauge mounted on the pillar - just 2 x 2" blitz gauges apparently they need to be in the dash...

[gatty]

and EUG it was a K&N oiled filter - so i am fairly sure it must be partitioned away from the motor

[Myth33]

Its really quite unbelievable, I mean these cops are targeting the car enhusiasts. Just the other night down the Goldcoast they waved over this mustang over. This car was immaculate, completely restored with polished chrome, spotless engine bay etc etc etc. Anyhow this mature guy with what looked to be his wife hopped out. The police guy was just going over every single detail with his torch in his engine bay trying to find a problem. Eventually he asks him to pop the boot. He pops it and there were two brackets that hold a nitrous bottle screwed to the base of the boot with a hose that is not attached to anything, and the cop says right thats illegal were gonna tow your car!

No nitrous onboard. Couldn't believe it. Here is a guy who has spent big dollars on an immaculate classic and obviously takes the car out on the strip with nitrous every so often, yet has the common sense not to use it on the street (and so removes the bottle) and he gets done.

I've got a hundred other stories about BS defects also..... gets me wild.

[dangerous_daveo]

Its really quite unbelievable, I mean these cops are targeting the car enhusiasts. Just the other night down the Goldcoast they waved over this mustang over. This car was immaculate, completely restored with polished chrome, spotless engine bay etc etc etc. Anyhow this mature guy with what looked to be his wife hopped out. The police guy was just going over every single detail with his torch in his engine bay trying to find a problem. Eventually he asks him to pop the boot. He pops it and there were two brackets that hold a nitrous bottle screwed to the base of the boot with a hose that is not attached to anything, and the cop says right thats illegal were gonna tow your car!  

No nitrous onboard. Couldn't believe it. Here is a guy who has spent big dollars on an immaculate classic and obviously takes the car out on the strip with nitrous every so often, yet has the common sense not to use it on the street (and so removes the bottle) and he gets done.

I've got a hundred other stories about BS defects also..... gets me wild.

Thats no BS defect tho. You are aloud NOTHING of a N2O system on your car in qld on the street. Drag racing ONLY. That one is pretty clearly stated I belive.

[nismo33]

yea...they were up here at sunny coast awhile ago..got defected aswell..lost 2 points and 270 bucks fine ..had alot of stuff in the car that was apparently defects..so yeah.

but i still dont understand though...Why does my Battery ( which located at the back of the car like any other R33 gtst i believe ) needs to be contained in a box when they came out like that ? ( me thinks anyways ).

anyways..took me 4 hours to fit a battery box in my boot..now its a pain in the as# to replace battery.

and also..My Tyres are 2mm too big...NOW THATs HARSH..!

[Barramundi]

I have a r33 gtst series 2 with the battery in the boot but i think maybe series 1s had battery in engine bay. thats a bs defect though. Surely a car can't be complianced unless it meets ADR regulations.

[Myth33]

Your right mate it is clearly stated in the QLD guide to modifications....."the fitting of nitrous oxide injection equipment is not permitted" doesn't change my mind about what I think about it though IMHO this guy was obviously just a responsible enhusiast who was caught by a backwards system.

[Ska]

I have a r33 gtst series 2 with the battery in the boot but i think maybe series 1s had battery in engine bay. thats a bs defect though. Surely a car can't be complianced unless it meets ADR regulations.

Proud owner of riced up R33 Series 1, my battery it located in boot as well.

Soon it will be a defect to start your car!

[Spook's_Skyline]

all r33s have battery in the boot unless it gets moved

[fsmout]

yeah i got done for my exhaust aswell, they make you rev it to 5,100 for GTR's because its 75% of max power.

i have a 2 x mufflers and a baffel in my rear exhaust and i was up to 94.5db!!!

might have to get a stoke exhaust from somewhere.

[Syphon]

Straight from QLD transport's modifications booklet

Accessory gauges

Any additional internal or external gauges must:

• not interfere with the field of view of the driver

• not produce glare to the driver

• not have the possibility of an oil pressure line, or

similar, breaking with pressurised fluids spraying

onto the windscreen

• be fitted in such a way to reduce the risk of injury to

the vehicle occupants or pedestrians.

As far as pillar mounted gauges go, they are a no no, but suggesting that they need to be "in" the dash is incorrect. General rule of thumb is if they are below the top of dash, they are legally mounted, so long as they wouldnt injure you in an accident.

Just a small piece of information anyways.

[NA_R33]

Ive got all the ADR's on CD, Light Vehicle Modification Guide, 90 bucks from the QLD Gov't.

Pods are fine, Guages are fine, bovs are fine as long as they are not too loud and do interfere with emissions.

[Ska]

[rant]

Problem is that the QLD police do not rule by that legistlation, they govern a totally seperate set of laws, of which you can go down to the local cop shop and ask for but you need to know what section and part, they wont supply you with the whole set of legistlation, one part I do know fairly well is ".. any part of a motor vehicle which is not fitted from the factory, or as a factory option is illegal as it might interfer with the engineered design model of the vehicle.."

Which is stupid because QLD transport govern under the ADR's meaning you get a defect by the police under their set of laws, then you go get it cleared by the QLD transport because it does not breach their laws.

Try to contest it in court and suddenly you are put back under the same legistlation in which the police govern under and BAM your stuffed!

Well that was the way it was explained to me after spending 45 mins at my local cop shop asking serious questions in a manner in which I could get straight answrs, and even then it was like I was being stuffed around.

All that said John would probably be more of an expert on this particular subject than me, he knows more mechanically and has had more experiance in this area then anyone I know!

No one cares, the police dont care, QLD transport dont care, the goverment doesnt care, they make huge amounts of money out of handing out bullcrap defect fines and other bs breaches, eg excessive noise, so why would it want to change?

[/rant]

[dangerous_daveo]

Ive got all the ADR's on CD, Light Vehicle Modification Guide, 90 bucks from the QLD Gov't.

Pods are fine, Guages are fine, bovs are fine as long as they are not too loud and do interfere with emissions.

Yeah, which means crank case emissions mostly, which you need to block off the bov from that, which means catch can, which most people then have venting instead, so you get done for that Its great isnt it!

[boostn32]

stuff the laws, go the screamer pipe.

[Syphon]

Far too many loop holes as always.

This has been said before but if every single person took these matters to court, the courts would be flooded with this crap.

Innocent until proven guilty still exists in this country, well that's what i like to think anyways.

Even if you lose, atleast you have been heard. If everyone took these matters to court, the courts would simply be overloaded and wouldnt have time for "real" cases that actually matter to the general public.

Only downside I can see is that maybe to resolve that problem, the laws may be changed regarding modifications and have only one set of rules to abide by. God help us if the EPA became responsible for that though....

This whole situation is going to put a whole of a lot of businesses broke and bankrupt aswell.

The only thing were gonna be left with to "modify legally" is our damn pc's hehe

Wonder if the EPA will want a say in that down the road too