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patto1234

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Like many I've become a victim of the recent flood of defects which I seem to be reading about. Got done on the Old Pac by an extremely pissed off Highway Patrol. You shoulda seen him. He drove past my mates and was abusing them telling to get the @#$% off the road and calling them all sorts of names. Then pulled up behind me and pulled me over. I thought he was gonna hit me. He was sooooo angry!! He spent like 20 mins going over every inch of my car looking for everything he could possibly do me for. Ended up getting me for Blow off, Pod filter, No H pattern on the gear knob and my muffler was too big????

Now I understand about the POD and Blow off and accept it but whats the deal with a muffler thats too big?? I asked whether it was cos it was too loud because my exhaust is really pretty bloody loud. But he was like "Nah the exhaust aint really loud but its too big!" My question is whether this is actually defectable (exhaust too big). Will I have to get a smaller muffler?? Cos i would assume it doesnt matter how big it is but how loud! Any advice on this whole situation would be appreciated. Unfortunately I'm sure it won't be the last time I'll be whinging about defects!! :(

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Liz Grand Master

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Like many I've become a victim of the recent flood of defects which I seem to be reading about. Got done on the Old Pac by an extremely pissed off Highway Patrol. You shoulda seen him. He drove past my mates and was abusing them telling to get the @#$% off the road and calling them all sorts of names. Then pulled up behind me and pulled me over. I thought he was gonna hit me. He was sooooo angry!! He spent like 20 mins going over every inch of my car looking for everything he could possibly do me for. Ended up getting me for Blow off, Pod filter, No H pattern on the gear knob and my muffler was too big????

Now I understand about the POD and Blow off and accept it but whats the deal with a muffler thats too big?? I asked whether it was cos it was too loud because my exhaust is really pretty bloody loud. But he was like "Nah the exhaust aint really loud but its too big!" My question is whether this is actually defectable (exhaust too big). Will I have to get a smaller muffler?? Cos i would assume it doesnt matter how big it is but how loud! Any advice on this whole situation would be appreciated. Unfortunately I'm sure it won't be the last time I'll be whinging about defects!!  :(

when was this? on Sunday?

pkblade Experienced

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...whats the deal with a muffler thats too big??.... Will I have to get a smaller muffler?? Cos i would assume it doesnt matter how big it is but how loud! Any advice on this whole situation would be appreciated. Unfortunately I'm sure it won't be the last time I'll be whinging about defects!!  :(

I think its a case of your muffler is bigger than my muffler envy :P

Unless this is some new rule, I've only heard people getting done for exhaust/ muffler above the legal 9XdB & ground clearance; for many states its around 10cm.

someonestolecc Grand Master

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lol

H pattern isn't defectable (my engineer said, as no ADR or state regulation in NSW specifies it).

Pods aren't defectable either so long as they pass the drive by noise test (ie the 90db applied to exhausts..) and aren't oiled. Mine is engineered without a box.

My engineers cert also specifies a 4.5" muffler tip.. so ehm.. sounds like this guy is just defecting anything.

Good luck getting em cleared tho, just get a mate to rubber stamp it.

Liz Grand Master

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Yeh Sunday

I saw that cop patrolling on Sunday and he looked pretty damn furious coz everyone was waving everyone to slow down and he didn't get anyone.

Its not wonder he went nuts and had a field day when he found you.

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lol

H pattern isn't defectable (my engineer said, as no ADR or state regulation in NSW specifies it).

Pods aren't defectable either so long as they pass the drive by noise test (ie the 90db applied to exhausts..) and aren't oiled. Mine is engineered without a box.

My engineers cert also specifies a 4.5" muffler tip.. so ehm.. sounds like this guy is just defecting anything.

Good luck getting em cleared tho, just get a mate to rubber stamp it.

Who's your engineer? I kinda need to get it done pretty soon. I got 5 days to pay up!! How much am I looking at spending? Sounds like it shouldn't be too much of a hassle though.

Driving up the old road with your mates in defectable car and you are surprised that you got picked up :P

Let me guess, you were all driving at or below the speed limit right?

Of course not:devil: But it was mods that were defected not my driving otherwise he would've done me for speeding as well... I don't think I've ever seen anyone drive the speed limit up there anyway.

perhaps he was meaning that it is too big there isn't enough ground clearance... they usually do the coke can test :(

Its easily above 10cm. Well an truly so if its not too low and too loud then it sounds like he's being a knob

Can I get stuff engineered anywhere or only at places recognised by the RTA?

mass_iv Grand Master

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yeh i had that happen to me, but i argued my way out of it... saying its not loud and doesnt let off any emissions/smoke.... and he said yeh blah blah. you should have kept arguing, mines pretty big tho.... good luck with it, but im sure youll get away with it, i havent heard of that rule, and ive asked a few people,, plus i got done about a month ago by the RTA and they said nothing about the size of my muffler!!!

benm Grand Master

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as for pod not being a defect.. how can you prove its not? how can they show its below the noise limit?  i got done for my pod... noone at that time told me it wasn't defectable... so whats changed?
About a year or so ago when I got a 'defect notice' for my hks pod (which I wanted to change back to the factory box anyway because I didnt like the induction noise) I took it to a local RTA recommended blue slip mechanic and he laughed at me. He said no where in his "book of rules" does it even state you have to have an air filter connected let alone it must be boxed. He rang up the RTA to give them a hoot but the RTA guy that answered simply stated "anything that is non-factory fitted is a defect" ... end of story.

By the time I got it cleared though I had already fitted the standard airbox so it was a simple 1min check and off I went back to the RTA.

I've said it 100x and i'll say it again, things will never change until the Police go back to fighting crimes (breakins, rape, bank robbers) and leave all the traffic offences to the RTA, I mean that's what we pay them for. It's a win win situation for us all.

d0p3y Grand Master

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LOL woah, so some of the guys getting around Woodcroft/Blacktown in Skylines ARE on here. I pass heaps on my way to and from work. There's a nice R34 GT-T on that main road through Doonside/Woodcroft... and a stocky R33 T too that I see every day

Saw somebody in a GSR getting absoloutely assblasted by a couple of cops on motorbikes the other morning. Bonnet up, boot open, doors open, book out.... ouch!

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