Ban To Be Inforced On P Plate Drivers Kiss Your Skylines GOODBYE

[MR R32]

I think that 4WDs and any vehicles with a bull bar should be added to the list

[wrxkilla]

I agree.

The Rules in basic Principle i agree.

P platers shouldnt be driving round in silvias and lines.

If this is implemented well (lol - i doubt it) i bet we will see it in other states soon too, like QLD WA SA

But yes, More Driver Training should be required.

maybe to move up to a further vehicle class you have to pass advanced test etc etc.

Get sick of seeing too many 17 year olds with their r33 gtst and chromies doing stupid things ont the road.

I learnt in low powered fwd cars. I see nothing wrong with that.

Michael

[wrxkilla]

I am still scratching my head - how can these things fix up a behavioural problem? Even driver training isn't going to fix it either, merely reducing the amount some of them might hurt themselves. Kids will always be kids..

this is so true, kids will be kids.

but a kid going silly in a RWD turbo car and a n/a fwd are 2 different things...

I know I wasnt less idiots driving rwd turbo cars.

[MsG_ChRiS]

I think i read in another thread something about power to weight ratios being restricted already in some states ...

What are your veiws on this??? Does this seem to you as tho it would be a better option rather than just a blanket ban???

If im not mistaken i think VIC already has this law <--- feel free to correct me on that

Also just out of curiousity how long is Provisional Term of your license in VIC???

Is it just me or do you the older generation of people in this country really need to find themselves a hobby ... and perhaps the young ppl who feel they need to link up multiple corners with some slideways action need to get themselves down to track meets and off the street <---- hey if kids didnt wrap theselves around poles then we wouldnt have this problem!!!

:werd:

[scottman]

U guy stop bitching none of u will b touched they won't make 20000 p plater with skyline and turbo sell them its just to hard they will make it everone that get there P's after a date

To bad for me i am a L plater that has a Skyline and if i don't get my P's soon i will have to sell it ****wits

I going for them on the 21st of June so i have a chance and i think the cut off is the 11th of july

I'm 17 btw just been to busy buying this car to go for P's

[wrxkilla]

I think i read in another thread something about power to weight ratios being restricted already in some states ...

What are your veiws on this??? Does this seem to you as tho it would be a better option rather than just a blanket ban???

If im not mistaken i think VIC already has this law <--- feel free to correct me on that

Also just out of curiousity how long is Provisional Term of your license in VIC???

Is it just me or do you the older generation of people in this country really need to find themselves a hobby ... and perhaps the young ppl who feel they need to link up multiple corners with some slideways action need to get themselves down to track meets and off the street <---- hey if kids didnt wrap theselves around poles then we wouldnt have this problem!!!  

:werd:

yeah i think the vic rules are better.

kw/perton or hp/tone or whatever.

instead of a blanket rule.

mick

[MsG_ChRiS]

U guy stop bitching none of u will b touched they won't make 20000 p plater with skyline and turbo sell them its just to hard they will make it everone that get there P's after a date

To bad for me i am a L plater that has a Skyline and if i don't get my P's soon i will have to sell it ****wits

I going for them on the 21st and i think the cut off is the 11th of july

I'm 17 btw just been to busy buying this car to go for P's

Didnt mean to offend you bro i seriously feel for your situation. We still are in the same boat as you however or i at least believe so, i still want an RTA person to what the exact deal is. GL fingers crossed you get to keep your LINE!!!

[scottman]

i went to the RTA yesterday the said if i don't get P's before a Date on in July i can't drive it on my P's

But i can Still Drive it on my L's WTF

there not making anyone on there P's stop driving turbos just new P platers have to

Unless u Lose ya P's then u go onto the new Thing

[MsG_ChRiS]

if you cant keep your car do what i was goin to do ...

buy yourself a rev happy type R or V-tir civic wack a big zorst and pod and rip up and down the streets making huge amounts of VTEC noise.

again bro GL ... i've got my fingers crossed!!!

[MsG_ChRiS]

if you cant keep your car do what i was goin to do ...

buy yourself a rev happy type R or V-tir civic wack a big zorst and pod and rip up and down the streets making huge amounts of VTEC noise.

again bro GL ... i've got my fingers crossed!!!

neway im off to tafe smell you guys later!!!

[Wink]

I'm guessing you can drive it on your Ls as you'll have somebody there to supervise you.

[LANFOH]

is that true  

well then in that case YAY!!!

I thought they were taking the cars from everyone ... and i love my car i spend more time with it than i do my gf (and she really p@#!!*d about that too)

my bad for jumping to conclusions

still would like to hear everybodies opinion however!!!

The law only comes into place on June 11th so your sweet mate but if you get caught speedng or anything in your car they wont let you drive it until you get your full licence.

Thank god Ive got my blacks.

[wrxkilla]

i went to the RTA yesterday the said if i don't get P's before a Date on in July i can't drive it on my P's  

But i can Still Drive it on my L's WTF

there not making anyone on there P's stop driving turbos just new P platers have to  

Unless u Lose ya P's then u go onto the new Thing

strange.

like the import law changes,

you think if you can provide evidence you have financially commited to a vehicle before this date that they would allow you to drive it.

hard luck anyway.

hope you can get the car and your license before that date.

michael

[scottman]

yea i will have to get a Vtec if they won't let me drive my Skyline or kick up a mega bitching and write ****s letters and shit

I still have a chance to get my P's if i **** it up its my fault

IF anyone know the shit i have been thought in the last few weeks now this CRAP after i get the ****en car it makes me just wanta get a civic

First i find car

then i worrie about it being ok

Checked out ok

then it got stolen from dealer

then i looked and found a new one

then stolen one was recoverd Undamaged

dealer fixed it and put new alarms and shit in it for me

i get car

drive home

on radio there all this P plater ban turbo bullshit

Got to rta put car in my name

they say if i don't get my P's b4 july i won't b able to drive my Own car

Booked P's for 21st June its my D day

Booked heaps of lessons due to me not Driving Manual much cause my silvia was auto

I AM STRESSING OUT

And everyone that thinks my Mum or dad pay for my car can get ****ed i worked my arse off and i don't go to school due to wanting this car my mum makes lease money then me just for anyone that things i am a little rich bitch

[Guest Mashrock]

how are they going to police this

"P1 and P2 licence holders will be banned from driving turbo-charged, super-charged vehicles (diesel vehicles excepted), eight-cylinder vehicles and those with engine performance modifications."

how is Mr. Policeman going to know if my excel has extractors or not just by me driving past?

lol

because even if you do put extractors on an excel, its still not going to be as quick as the go go mobile!

[DivHunter]

next time vote liberal, wish Vic had, I knew bracksy would **** everything up.

[nmcmahon83]

I heard Mr Costa regurgitating the stats last night on the radio... apparently P-platers make up 7% of driving population, but are involved in 17% of fatal accidents...

NOW, what i want to know, firstly of that 7% how many actually drive performance cars... i would say it would be <1% or ~10% of p-plater drive performance cars probably less... Secondly of the 17% incolved, how many were driving performance cars in the accident (this i can't say but it would not be about 10-20%).

So why do the remaning 90% of p-plater who probably cause 80% of the fatal accidents get off without any sort of "penalty"... It's clear the only solution is to ban p-platers full stop (tongue in cheek)...

Congratulations to the Carr government and it's continued short-termism on issues in NSW. Carr has to go... for these reasons:

1) He waits til Sydney is in crisis before addressing the water issue;

2) He waits til the trains are in crisis before he addresses them;

3) same as above two but it's Hospitals in crisis;

4) These bollocks p-plate rules;

5) NSW is the most highly taxed state in Australia.

I only have one more point to make, which has already been made... but if a p-plater is going to drive like an idiot, they will do it in whatever car they have. I know, i was there did that somehow survived my p's, bought a skyline and respect it more than i respect my own parents...

End rant.

[xRHETTx]

Hey its going to piss a lot of you guys off but as a victorian who had to deal with the same thing here in Vic for the 3 years i drove on my p's between ages 18-21, i totally agree with the NSWs governments decision.

The fact is that it is an effective way to reduce road deaths of young people, who are way over-represented in the death toll. I know if i had a RWD turbo car on my P's, i would probably have killed myself, even though out of my group of friends I am one of the most responsible drivers, with no fines or accidents so far.

It is simply a matter of inexperienced drivers and fast cars - they dont mix!

Just be glad you guys can drive when ur 17!

[**JaR**]

what are you talking about? in vic you arent allowed to drive any car that has more than 100kw per tonne. the r32 gts-t fits under this rule but the r33/r34 don't. not sure if the silvia/180sx would. just realised your in qld, oh well welcome to vics rule its not too bad i mean its probably kept a few kids from hitting power poles at 130kmh in their vl turbo's . the rule applies to all cars, regardless of displacement, induction, cyclinders etc. however its not harshly enforced daily you see p platers driving high powered cars (well those over 100kw/ per tonne) and cops drive past them and dont blink an eyelid. i think it just depends on the copper and time of day really wether they will pull you over i guess. i mean its a raod rule right, vicroads knows what licence you have and what car you have. why not do an sql query every week

im a p plater, and i drive an R33 gts-t... coppers dont harrass me about the car, only the stuff under the bonnet that shouldnt be there... pod filter, bov., but apart from that, they've never said to me " you shouldnt be driving this car "... the way i see this issue is, n/a 6's and 4's go equally as fast as turbo ones.... living in vic. and already having my P's none of that new law crap affects me, but i still dont agree with it... also, dont take offence as this isnt meant to offend.... but being off your p plates and driving a high powered sports car doesnt make you any less liable to crash it... thats jst my 2 cents anyways

[Winner1]

hey, Yesterday i emailed RTA about this matter .. this is what they emailed back:

. Will the prohibited vehicle conditions affect those who already

hold a provisional licence?

No. Existing provisional drivers, that is, drivers who entered the

3-year provisional licence scheme prior to 11 July 2005, will not

have the prohibited vehicle condition applied.