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Originally posted by VISHES

i disagree with ur perception here.....just becos a car make big horsepower doesnt mean its fast. if at the lights or on track and u can't kick a less modified less horsepowered car then obviously all that horsepower, money and time are wasted.

Hehehehe...

I'm afraid it isn't that simple Linus... As the late Ayrton Senna once said,

"It's easy to drive a slow car fast, but difficult to drive a fast car fast".

What this means is that it's easy to extract near-maximum potential out of a slow car (fast lap times, fast ETs, etc), but it's much much harder to drive a fast car to it's full potential. I guess you'll find this out when you start making proper horsepower out of your s15 :)

The RotorMaster RX7 that we saw run a 7.8 second pass (or something like that) was amazing yes? How do you think it would go with Street tyres? I'd predict a 30.5 @ 172 mph... When you go over a certain horsepower level, there's no point in running with street tyres (well, not 18" street tyres anyway, perhaps 15" Nitto NT-555Rs would be okay), you need slicks to put the power to the ground.

I've spoken to a lot of people who are very experienced drag racers, and expressed my disappointment at the times and they all laughed at me when I told them what tyres I was using... Basically the unanimous opinion was I was kidding myself if I expected to set a fast ET with those tyres. Fast Terminal Speed, yes, but Fast ET? No way.

So I'm going to have to put the slicks on to put the power to the ground, and run the fast ET that everyone judges the car on... I now know how Mario feels when people won't accept a car unless it's run a fast time down the 1/4 Mile... Albeit to a slightly lesser extent :)

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Originally posted by LoudBlueBMW

Expect more wear on ur drivetrain when you bolt slicks on, more grip=more stress. Something will give and it's just a matter of chasing and upgrading till it's bullet proof :D Good luck.

You're 110% correct there :)

I just installed a NISMO triple plate clutch in, and I guess it has moved the "weak point" of the drivetrain to the driveshafts...

What's going to happen after I put billet driveshafts in? The gearbox will most probably go BOOOOM tinkle tinkle tinkle :)

As Troy said yesterday at Eastern Creek,

"Terminal Speed is to see what the car can do... ET is for those who want to spend another $20,000 actually doing it"

:bahaha: :bahaha: :bahaha: :bahaha: :bahaha:

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Originally posted by Merli

What this means is that it's easy to extract near-maximum potential out of a slow car (fast lap times, fast ETs, etc), but it's much much harder to drive a fast car to it's full potential. I guess you'll find this out when you start making proper horsepower out of your s15 :)

The RotorMaster RX7 that we saw run a 7.8 second pass (or something like that) was amazing yes? How do you think it would go with Street tyres? I'd predict a 30.5 @ 172 mph... When you go over a certain horsepower level, there's no point in running with street tyres (well, not 18" street tyres anyway, perhaps 15" Nitto NT-555Rs would be okay), you need slicks to put the power to the ground.

well i prefer ur earlier intention of racing ur car on street tyres because that's where u'll spend most of ur time driving. since u mentioned Ayton Senna, i'd like to draw ur attention to another famous quote:

'it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a car length, winning is winning' :) hahhaahah

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well i prefer ur earlier intention of racing ur car on street tyres because that's where u'll spend most of ur time driving.

Driving yes. Racing no.

Originally posted by VISHES

since u mentioned Ayton Senna, i'd like to draw ur attention to another famous quote:

'it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a car length, winning is winning' :) hahhaahah

Yes, well obviously I've found out that my combination of 18" rims, DMS coilovers and Triple Plate clutch is quite useless for launches on street tyres... Too much power.

But the DMS coilovers, 17" D01Js and Triple Plate are *EXCELLENT* for track work, which is great, because that's what I prefer by FAR... I'm only doing drags for a side activity because it's just another avenue of motorsport that I enjoy...

"Winning is winning"? On the drag strip, unless you're racing a mate, the only person you're racing against is yourself... So I guess I won AND lost? I don't street race, so that quote was quite irrelevant methinks...

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"Winning is winning"? On the drag strip, unless you're racing a mate, the only person you're racing against is yourself... So I guess I won AND lost? I don't street race, so that quote was quite irrelevant methinks...

so ur run against Dr GTR at the lights wasn't street racing? :)

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so ur run against Dr GTR at the lights wasn't street racing? :)

No... It was a friendly squirt for 100m between friends whilst driving to get food.

You haven't said one positive or encouraging thing in this thread. All you are trying to do is bring me down.

Thanks for your input, but I don't need it.

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Linus - Me, googz and Franks reckon you're getting a bit big for your boots and that this affair will be settled at our next cunmberland maccas/peats ridge/wollongong meet! :)

hahahahaa....bring it on!!! man u guys take it too serious...i've been whipped by a number of cars.....u win some u lose some..

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im not touching VISHES, i've already had my ass returned back on a platter by him, i'll only do rolling starts from now on

I'll have to give VISHES that much.... I remmeber my first encounter with him at the wollongong cruise..... I was looking over my right shoulder and the GTS-T was no where to be seen

....... look over my left shoulder.... "WTF is that S15 still doing there?"

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I'll have to give VISHES that much.... I remmeber my first encounter with him at the wollongong cruise..... I was looking over my right shoulder and the GTS-T was no where to be seen

....... look over my left shoulder.... "WTF is that S15 still  doing there?"

hahahha...that makes two of us!!! first time i went up against a GTR.......and i wasn't expecting to keep up with u...but i thought i had a chance with the GTS-T

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Linus - Me, googz and Franks reckon you're getting a bit big for your boots and that this affair will be settled at our next cunmberland maccas/peats ridge/wollongong meet! :)

VISHES: don't be intimidated by these skyline nazis, they're all talk... except GooGZ... he had some weird voodoo shit going on at the dyno day :uh-huh: :)

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