Carbon Fibre Bonnet

[GTRman1992]

It is now being mandated in racing to put kevlar over the top of composite parts to stop them shattering as well.

And on the weight issue, most fabricators don't really know what they are doing when it comes to carbon and treat it like fibreglass so you end up with a product heavier than the aluminium parts anyway.

Given the recent threads it would seem the legality of the carbon bonnet seems to remain in a grey area, or at least whether or not you will be booked for it.

[strutto]

they are most definately illegal...

:werd:

[The Dan]

I guess there is only one way to find out for sure. I don't want to go off what another mechanic has said so I'll speak with the Department of Transport.

Waiting on return email......

[Chucky]

Just got done for my Carbon Fibre bonnet on the weekend - $225 fine on the Gold Coast And some other defects.

[R33S2]

I am most definately a lucky SOB then, they prob felt guilty about trying to induce me to race or something. the boost god must be watching over me.

[WazR32GTSt]

the boost god must be watching over me.

[The Dan]

the two rules that apply are

ADR 12 Glare reduction in field of view.

ADR 69 Full frontal Impact occupant Protection

DOTARS told me that for the 32's ADR69 does not apply but not 100% on the 33's, they did not mention them.

The other usual rules apply with hinging and latching and scoops.

So that means that on a 32, a fibreglass bonnet, carbon fibre or aluminium bonnet is completely legal as long as there is no excessive glare and hinges and is latched correctly.

I do not see why this would be different for an R33. I would seriously contest any fines that have been issued as this has come from Department of Transport themselves.

[Squizz]

the two rules that apply are

ADR 12 Glare reduction in field of view.

ADR 69 Full frontal Impact occupant Protection

DOTARS told me that for the 32's ADR69 does not apply but not 100% on the 33's, they did not mention them.

The other usual rules apply with hinging and latching and scoops.

So that means that on a 32, a fibreglass bonnet, carbon fibre or aluminium bonnet is completely legal as long as there is no excessive glare and hinges and is latched correctly.

I do not see why this would be different for an R33. I would seriously contest any fines that have been issued as this has come from Department of Transport themselves.

May we have copies of this? I am a 32 owner in want of a carbon bonnet after my little hail dance incident. Let's see hail dint that ferker.

[The Dan]

Yes, you may all have copies of this....just pay the $70 for a copy of the ADR and it's all there.

Other than that, there is a member who has a copy but I cannot remember who he was. He posted it in a reply to someone once so you might be able to do a search and ask him about it.

[fsmout]

yeah, i would suggest that people with GTST's get the CF bonnet resprayed a normal colour so that its not as obvious to the cops?? I would just save so much hassle with the cops!!

Anyone with a GTR & a CF bonnet must really want to save every gram!! as said above the aluminium bonnets are prob .5kg heavier........other than that it sucks because the CF Bonnets look hawt!!!!

this of course excludes squizz, sorry to hear about the hail damage after the storm!!

i would love a copy of the ADRS ^^

[Squizz]

damage after the storm!!

I hate those Melbourne players!

[strutto]

I hate those Melbourne players!

 

Bwahahaha...

[The Dan]

I spoke with the Mods mechanic today and he reckons that a full copy of the ADR should be available to view at the Brisbane public library.

[R33S2]

I talked about this with Ben at Hardcore Racing today, he is a mechanical engineer and he said that mods should only be defected by accredited persons as he can certify something but any wally with a badge can defect it and then its up to you to defend it, to this end he has a deposition to the police asking to clarify this and he is in a postion to change this FU system by lobbying. As to my bonnet he told me the ADRs for that year of production (1996) apply to my car and what will pass for mine could be different for a 1997 car and so on, and as the years go on the tougher the rules, so a 1988 car will have less restrictions than a 1998 car etc.

If I find out more I will keep you posted.

[GT-R_M-Spec]

Umm... yeah.. I customly did my bonnet, and got nissan to approve it... Noone has said anything..

I'm good to go Bl for those who got booked. Stupid Cops..!

[«Cyph3r»]

Also, for bonnets, whats the point? (apart from if you have a cooling problem) as an Aluminium GTR bonnet is probably only .5 to 1kg heavier than most 'carbon' bonnets out there

there is no real point to it on a gtr as probly more then 90% of the so called "carbon fibre" bonnets in australia are fibreglass bonnets with a carbon fibre skin on them making them heavier then the aluminium and illegal,

makes it in the same category pretty much as putting diff bov's on the gtr even though the stock ones are good for more power/boost then most gtr's in qld are making and also have the advantage of being legal. :confused:

[jasin66]

I have a wet c/f bonnet (fibreglass/cf overlay) on my z33, it came with an aluminium bonnet too but the c/f is lighter....but i just wanted it for the looks, i haven't checked to see if it's legal but my insurance company has just knocked me back for haveing it, i have a insurance broker seeing who he can find for me.

[Paulie_Bro]

qld transport modifications booklet.

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTASinf...ion_Jan05v2.pdf

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTASinf...ion_Jan05v2.pdf

regards paul

[wrxkilla]

pretty sure that guide says nothing baout carbon fibre bonnets....

mick

[wrxkilla]

so what is the FINAL word?

u gys saying its fine on R32's becuase ADR69 doesnt apply?

is that correct (assuming there is not excessive glare)

thanks

Michael