ISLAM - What do you really know about it?

[allblitz]

Ok guys,

Not trying to preach anything in this section at all, but since its a VIC section, i thought i would post it in here.

Being a Muslim, i know that a lot of non-muslims have misconceptions about Islam:

Are we terrorists?

Do we oppress our women?

Do we want to kill everyone that is not a muslim?

The list goes on and on

For those interested, there is an upcoming Lecture series in Melbourne.

Lecture will be given by a former Christian preacher from Texas. His website is www.islamtomorrow.com

Purpose of this series, is to give non-muslims a better understanding of Islam, and if it was the harsh religion as portrayed in the media, then why are so many people entering it?

Attached is a poster of the lecture series. First night will be held at Dallas Brooks Hall, and second night at Melbourne University.

Night 1 July 8: Priests and Preachers entering Islam - WHY?

Night 2 July 9: Who is going to Paradise?

For more information, contact IISNA - www.iisna.com (details of lecture series will be uploaded in the next day or 2 God willing).

PS: Lecture will be broadcasted LIVE on Paltalk (www.paltalk.com)

[saff_cossie]

Interesting post Husnu (sorry can't remember exact spelling as you have changed your name!)

This is not a dig or anything even similar at your religion, just a couple of questions as I am genuinely interested to see what a follower can explain.

Will those lectures explain where the misconceptions have arisen from as I dont know other than the terriorists one?

Have to word this one carefully as again no offence is intended at all.

If I go into a shop wearing a hoodie on my own I get watched (fair enough as statistics speak). If I go out with my girlfriend into a designer shop, we sometimes get watched (again, young couple get watched closely)

As I know where the terrorist misconception comes from and it is exactly that, a misconception. There are bad people in every religion.

I recently flew into Melbourne from Singapore with several Indian passengers (no problems there), however I am an appalling flyer at the best of times for nerves (not terrorist related up until this flight as I have had it for years). One passenger in particular decided to stand at the exit door (normal for excercise) but hold on to the handle and switch his focus between the flight path TV, the manual overide setting and the door handle. He would stand there for blocks of 20mins roughly at a time. This made me and a lot of other passengers around us extremely nervous due to his appearance (related back to me wearing a hoodie, stereotypical).

Do you think in the current climate he should have had a bit more consideration for his fellow passengers? As said earlier this is in no way a dig but interested to see if you have had to make any changes in recent years or whether you would have been comfortable with being a fellow passenger?

[R31Nismoid]

Islam, is that the religion where your not allowed to eat bacon ?

[CNR33]

Islam, is that the religion where your not allowed to eat  bacon ?

That'd be Judiasm...

I was born a snake handler, and I'll die a snake handler

-that being said, good luck to anyone that attends, might be very informative for you

[inark]

my best friend and family are all muselim (theyre malaysian and italian) and having known them for many many years i know how stupid that misconception can be. they never try and push it on me or even speak much to me about it as they know i dont believe in any religion and find religion to be quite rediculous.

however i feel people should be able to believe in whatever they want... and i respect peoples wishes so long as they respect mine. Every muselim family i have met has been fantastic... theyre all welcoming and all very generous and dont make you feel uncomfortable unlike a lot of catholic and christian families ive encountered lol

but anyway... ignore the morons who cant see past their nose and what they think... its their problem.

[allblitz]

This made me and a lot of other passengers around us extremely nervous due to his appearance (related back to me wearing a hoodie, stereotypical).

Do you think in the current climate he should have had a bit more consideration for his fellow passengers? As said earlier this is in no way a dig but interested to see if you have had to make any changes in recent years or whether you would have been comfortable with being a fellow passenger?

Saff_cossie,

When you said Indian, and if he did have a turban on his head - most likely he would have been a Sikh (not a muslim), regardless what he was (muslim or not) - you are right, its common sense to have consideration to fellow passengers.

I personally, try to be a devout Muslim. I have never changed my ways for anyone, and those who know me, respect me for who i am. As a Muslim, i do not drink (alcohol), smoke, swear, lie, cheat or decieve others. Now this may sound corny, but regardless of being a muslim or not, these characteristics should be in everyone - no offense to those who drink, smoke, swear and lie and cheat

But unfortunately the misconceptions about Muslims and Islam is always in the media, and this tends to stick to the common individuals mind.

I dont know how the speaker will deliver his talk, and what area's he will cover. All i know is he is from Texas and has George Bush's accent

It will be an interesting evening, and would be good if non-muslims attend. Will give you a clearer understanding of Islam (not muslims). As you know, you cannot judge a religion according to its followers. There are muslims out there who do the wrong thing and things are quickly pointed to Islam. Just like there are christians, jews, buddhists, hindu's etc who do wrong things - but does not mean this is what their religion teaches them.

Regards,

Husnu.

[allblitz]

Islam, is that the religion where your not allowed to eat  bacon ?

Yes Islam forbids Pork. But if you want me to get into nitty gritty details, so does Judaism and Christianity (its in the bible)

[R31Nismoid]

Fark, pork! thats like the WHOLE PIG... o noes

God, lucky i am non religious.

why is the pig banned/forbidden?

Pig/bacon/ham&tomato is like the centre of my world on a sunday morning

[inark]

isnt it cause its the closest meat to human flesh? or just cause its a dirty animal... pulp fiction style

[CNR33]

no offense to those who drink, smoke, swear and lie and cheat

None Taken j/k

Saff, I know what you mean about the plane, I think anybody standing by the door release would attract attention these days.

[saff_cossie]

Husnu - top reply, thank you very much. He didnt have a turban, just one of those wirey beards.

[R31Nismoid]

this has been double posted, maybe more.

can i merge it with the on in the wasteland?

cant have multi threads of the same thing

[allblitz]

Yeah thats right. One is for you VIC guys only and the other for outsiders

[R31Nismoid]

no, but we dont need dboule posts on the forum.

Our job is to make sure that doesnt happen

[VLS_BACK]

I know a few muslims... his old man went to iraq during the golf war to fight for iraq he is now "missing"

but then again i know a muslim guy whos been a good friend of mine for a while now..

U get both farked up ones and good ones .. same with every religen and race i guess.

[allblitz]

I know a few muslims...  his old man went to iraq during the golf war to fight for iraq he is now "missing"  

but then again i know a muslim guy whos been a good friend of mine for a while now..

U get both farked up ones and good ones .. same with every religen and race i guess.

Whats wrong with the first example?

[Demon]

Yes Islam forbids Pork.  But if you want me to get into nitty gritty details, so does Judaism and Christianity (its in the bible)

Actually, the new testament of the bible says that it is not what goes in the mouth of man that makes him unclean but the words that come out....

What this means is that we can eat anything we like because the body will dispose of it but it is the harmful things we say or harmful way we act that makes us "unclean".

No offence to Islam here but I think the Koran is written based on the old testament of the bible, not the other way around...bible came first not vice versa but I understand that people can interpret readings anyway they want.

Also, you mention that many people have converted to Islam but what about those who have converted from Islam??? It's easy to learn about Islam in this country and I'll tell you why....If I was to go and preach about any other religion in a Muslim country, it would never be allowed. We as Australian's have very high tolerance and respect for other peoples religion and we allow schools and places of worship of these religions to be setup and operate and so it is easy for people to learn about them. Try opening up a church or Hindu Temple in Saudi Arabia for example and see the consequence. I'm not saying that Islam commands its followers to stop the building of places of worship or schools but where does this level of fanaticalism come from? Is there any tolerance, respect and freedom of choice from these people? If so I shouldn't have an issue openly preaching any religion in some of these countries.

Sorry about the long post and please understand there is no offence aimed at Islam...just voicing the perception some fanatics give out about the religion.

[VLS_BACK]

He is a citizen of australia. not iraq. he went over there to fight for his religion.

He went to go fight againts his own coutry and there allies.. makes u wonder if trouble ever broke out here .. who would he take arms up against.. australians.. or muslim cause?

If it was up to me i woudl deport his whole family back to iraq.... obvioously they dont care much about australia so they should be ****ed off.

can u honestly tell me what he did was rite????

my family is fropm yugoslavia ( serbia ).. when there war broke out. did u see all my family running back??? no..

we live in australia.. we have our own country now..

[Roy]

... i do not drink (alcohol), smoke, swear, lie, cheat or decieve others.  Now this may sound corny, but regardless of being a muslim or not, these characteristics should be in everyone - no offense to those who drink, smoke, swear and lie and cheat

LOL...out of interest is the average devout muslim offended by this sort of behaviour?...edit...drinking and smokign that is, cheating etc etc is a given

LOL..these threads always end badly:(

[VLS_BACK]

Allblitz u dont smoke drink or cheat.. but if it came to your gihad or how eva u spell it would u pick up arms and kill?