I need a reason NOT to buy a GTiR

[Guest Mashrock]

this is all you need to see

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/800/

haha but thats a gti golf..

not a gti-r

[scathing]

If you're trying to save money, trading in your non turbo Skyline for a turbo Pulsar may not really change your Total Cost of Ownership, especially if you're going to modify it.

Turbos (especially the GTiR, which has a reputation for overheating) need a lot more TLC than a NA car.

[JH32]

they're ugly.

end thread.

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[[D4RKS1D3]]

If you're trying to save money, trading in your non turbo Skyline for a turbo Pulsar may not really change your Total Cost of Ownership, especially if you're going to modify it.

Turbos (especially the GTiR, which has a reputation for overheating) need a lot more TLC than a NA car.

Sorry, im not intending to buy the GTiR just yet. Im selling my skyline to finish off paying my car loan cuz i hate the interest rates. By saving on the interest rates (12%), i'll have enough money to buy a GTiR within six to eight months. By then my financials will all be soughted out, i just dont want to get a bad credit rating should i ever get so bad that i default on my loan.

[scathing]

Then get an R33 GTSt instead.

[CerealKiller]

dude pocket rockets go off, you can make them look good just like any car, just dont go OVER the top with cosmetics and it'll end up lookin' classy and not like somethin off a st corner in st kilda lol.

the bonnet is hideous and the rear looks very plain...

[[D4RKS1D3]]

I find that you either like em or hate em. Some people see them as having massive potential and others view them as nissans "D" grade attempt at rally.

[Dee 33]

F**kin ugly. Even those 2 pictures are ugly.

Personal opinion though.

[**JaR**]

the bonnet is hideous and the rear looks very plain...

each to their own, i'd prefer my 33 gts-t anyday, jst dont think the gti-rs look that bad is all.

[JH32]

even though they look like a tough girl's car ... i do give them credit for being pretty damn quick

[Bass Junky]

two words

Plough Understeer

[Goon]

sorry, i know their performance potentional , but i would never own one due to the ugliness of them. sorry

[1598cc]

gtir's are bad ass... best hatchback ever.

[scathing]

gtir's are bad ass... best hatchback ever.

Negative.

This is the best hatchback ever.

[Guest Mashrock]

why are people so unkind?

[MsG_ChRiS]

good motor ... glass gear box ... ugly styling ... performance potential ...

if you dont mind spending a bit of money to get her up and going nice as well as looking nice ... buy one. Otherwise just buy a n14 SSS or sumfink <---- they look ok and are fairly cheap on fuel, good luck finding one with low k's on it however!!!

seems to me your stuck between a rock and hard place ...

[Blitz]

You dont need a reason.

[Beer Baron]

GTI-Rs are a great car. I had one for two years. a lot of the problems people mentioned are now not so bad. there are plenty of off the shelf performance parts for them now as they are much more popular than they were 2 or 3 years ago. in the two years I had mine it saw plenty of 7000rpm launches and never had a clutch or gearbox problem. also dragged it at WSID once and went to a few track days. I spent a fair bit of dough on the brakes and suspension as they go very hard stock but don't stop and turn so well. with some mods on brakes and suspension though it will be a very nice package. then spend a bit on power upgrades and it will be damn hard to beat.

don't expect it to be cheap, because the fact is it's AWD, and turbo. those two things tend to bump up associated running costs on any model.

very fun car to drive though, and a much better SR20 than found in silvias etc (ie. solid lifters, longer duration/higher lift cams, 440cc injectors, bigger turbo, quad throttles, 19mm conrod bearings and on and on.)

if that is what you have wanted i say go for it.

[BHDave]

two words

Plough Understeer

Generally followed by snap oversteer. Not a good handling trait in anyones books.

Even with the white line suspension works package it will still tend to understeer and snap, it's just a little more controllable......

[someonestolecc]

Hmm Dave - I've never experienced any snap oversteer with the whiteline package. I mustn't be trying hard enough eh